[djbombsquad]

My friend went to jail yesterday because the police said he had syringes that were illigal. Can you get busted for carrying it as well as GHRP6.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

My friend went to jail yesterday because the police said he had syringes that were illigal. Can you get busted for carrying it as well as GHRP6.

The different state laws in the US seem quite varied regarding the specific details of this subject. Seems many states have some ammendments to the general rule. But basically it seems that even though sales of syringes may be legal in some states, possession is not, unless you can prove a legitimate medical reason for having them (diabetic,etc).

Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but this is what I've come to understand from a brief search...

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

The different state laws in the US seem quite varied regarding the specific details of this subject. Seems many states have some ammendments to the general rule. But basically it seems that even though sales of syringes may be legal in some states, possession is not, unless you can prove a legitimate medical reason for having them (diabetic,etc).

Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but this is what I've come to understand from a brief search...

Interesting.....I will have to look into this. Not that it is pertinent to myself, as I'm a legitimate researcher using products for R&D purposes. Ya feel me?! tuh-heee-heee!

[TripDog]

Either way once a cop finds it, its just gonna be a field day for him to break your balls. There is no real way you can prove whats in there, so its def a risk im not willing to take anymore...

Thanks for the heads up dj.

[djbombsquad]

I have to speak to my friends laywer at lunch to day and I need to come up with something or else hes going to be there for a year in jail. just want to know aht is safe and what is not safe. I mean heck we were able to buy the stuff online with out any papers.

[mathis50262]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

I have to speak to my friends laywer at lunch to day and I need to come up with something or else hes going to be there for a year in jail. just want to know aht is safe and what is not safe. I mean heck we were able to buy the stuff online with out any papers.

You can buy alot of stuff online, but it is legal to possess. That is just of F'ed ^ out justice system is, it is all about money... They are always looking for way to get money out of you! Is this his first violation for anything? What state are you in?

[Mr.50]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

I have to speak to my friends laywer at lunch to day and I need to come up with something or else hes going to be there for a year in jail. just want to know aht is safe and what is not safe. I mean heck we were able to buy the stuff online with out any papers.

I can tell you for sure what you should not do is "come up with something" for discussions presenting the situation to your friend's lawyer. What you should do is tell hime the truth. It is impossible for him to represent your friend intelligently if you guys do not tell him the truth.

Mr.50

[Bobaslaw]

Here is the Syringe Law under the Business and Professions Code in California as well as an excerpt from a guy that was procecuted under this code for syring posession. You can find the appropriate law for youe state:

CA Codes (bpc:4140-4149)


Excerpt from a guy that was arrested for syringe posession in CA:

As I write this, I am serving six months in a California jail for a misdemeanor: violation of section 4140 of the Business and Professions Code. This code states that it is against the law to possess a hypodermic syringe, although the actual language of this code makes it sound like I was involved in unfair business practices. Six months is the maximum sentence for this "crime" so I received the maximum sentence

4140. No person shall possess or have under his or her control any
hypodermic needle or syringe except when acquired in accordance with
this article.


4141. No person shall furnish hypodermic needles or syringes, by
sale or otherwise, without a license issued by the board, except as
otherwise provided by this article.



4142. Except as otherwise provided by this article, no hypodermic
needle or syringe shall be sold at retail except upon the
prescription of a physician, dentist, veterinarian, podiatrist, or
naturopathic doctor pursuant to Section 3640.7.




4143. This article shall not apply to the sale of hypodermic
syringes and needles at wholesale by pharmacies, drug wholesalers,
drug manufacturers or manufacturers and dealers in surgical
instruments to pharmacies, physicians, dentists, podiatrists,
veterinarians, or persons to whom a license has been issued under
this article.



4144. A person may sell or obtain hypodermic needles and hypodermic
syringes without a prescription or permit, for uses that the board
determines are industrial, and that person shall not be required to
comply with Section 4145 or 4146.


4145. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a pharmacist
or physician may, without a prescription or a permit, furnish
hypodermic needles and syringes for human use, and a person may,
without a prescription or license, obtain hypodermic needles and
syringes from a pharmacist or physician for human use, if one of the
following requirements is met:
(1) The person is known to the furnisher and the furnisher has
previously been provided a prescription or other proof of a
legitimate medical need requiring a hypodermic needle or syringe to
administer a medicine or treatment.
(2) Pursuant to authorization by a county, with respect to all of
the territory within the county, or a city, with respect to the
territory within the city, for the period commencing January 1, 2005,
and ending December 31, 2010, a pharmacist may furnish or sell 10 or
fewer hypodermic needles or syringes at any one time to a person 18
years of age or older if the pharmacist works for a pharmacy that is
registered for the Disease Prevention Demonstration Project pursuant
to Chapter 13.5 (commencing with Section 121285) of Part 4 of
Division 105 of the Health and Safety Code and the pharmacy complies
with the provisions of that chapter.
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a pharmacist,
veterinarian, or person licensed pursuant to Section 4141 may,
without a prescription or license, furnish hypodermic needles and
syringes for use on animals, and a person may, without a prescription
or license, obtain hypodermic needles and syringes from a
pharmacist, veterinarian, or person licensed pursuant to Section 4141
for use on animals, providing that no needle or syringe shall be
furnished to a person who is unknown to the furnisher and unable to
properly establish his or her identity.



4147. (a) For the purposes of this section, "playground" means any
park or outdoor recreational area specifically designed to be used by
children that has play equipment installed or any similar facility
located on public or private school grounds or county parks.
(b) Any hypodermic needle or syringe that is to be disposed of,
shall be contained, treated, and disposed of, pursuant to Part 14
(commencing with Section 117600) of Division 104 of the Health and
Safety Code.
(c) It is unlawful to discard or dispose of a hypodermic needle or
syringe upon the grounds of a playground, beach, park, or any public
or private elementary, vocational, junior high, or high school.
(d) A person who knowingly violates subdivision (c) is guilty of a
misdemeanor, and upon conviction shall be punished by a fine of not
less than two hundred dollars ($200) and not more than two thousand
dollars ($2,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail for up to six
months, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
(e) Subdivision (c) does not apply to the containment, treatment,
and disposal of medical sharps waste from medical care or first aid
services rendered on school grounds, nor to the containment,
treatment, and disposal of hypodermic needles or syringes used for
instructional or educational purposes on school grounds.



4148. All stocks of hypodermic needles or syringes shall be
confiscated if found outside the licensed premises of any person
holding a permit under Section 4141 and found not in the possession
or under the control of a person entitled to an exemption under
Section 4143, 4144, or 4145.



4149. (a) A nonresident distributor shall not sell or distribute
hypodermic needles or syringes in this state without obtaining a
license from the board pursuant to Section 4141.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), no license shall be required
if the nonresident distributor sells or distributes solely through a
person who is licensed as a wholesaler pursuant to Section 4160.
(c) The Legislature, by enacting this section, does not intend a
license issued to any nonresident distributor pursuant to this
article to serve as evidence that the entity is doing business within
this state.

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

I have to speak to my friends laywer at lunch to day and I need to come up with something or else hes going to be there for a year in jail. just want to know aht is safe and what is not safe. I mean heck we were able to buy the stuff online with out any papers.

A fukcin year for possessing a syringe!?!?!

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by TripDog

A fukcin year for possessing a syringe!?!?!

Trippy, laws regarding hypodermic needle & syringe possession vary by state. I think the easiest way to determine whether or not your state has any current "ban" on syringe possession without a Rx is to contact a pharmacy. I think they should be able to clear it up in no time.

You can search the Internet, but laws may have changed. I think a pharmacist would know the current standing.

-Just a thought-

See this MAP for each state's syringe possession law(s): Scott Burris's Project

REFERENCE THIS AS IT MAY HELP: Possession and Disposal

-Papa!-

[djbombsquad]

We are in Cali.

[TripDog]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

We are in Cali.

Ahhhhhhhh, well there you go. You can't do sh*t over there.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

We are in Cali.

As per my post and the CA codes that this falls under, the guy said that 6 months was the maximum sentence for this misdemeanor offense. (which he got).
He was however carrying 93 new syringes, not just one...

[djbombsquad]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

As per my post and the CA codes that this falls under, the guy said that 6 months was the maximum sentence for this misdemeanor offense. (which he got).
He was however carrying 93 new syringes, not just one...

He had less than 50% as some one else took the other 50+%. The dumb thing is he was not smart enough to hide them which is dumb because they did not ketch him for the GHRP6. Go figure.

[mathis50262]

If he has a some what clean record, he will most likely just get probation.. Most jails expecially in cali don't have time or room to lock you up for 6 months for drug peraphanila.