[papapumpsd]

Day 9:

I was supposed to do chest/abs today, but I'm still too sore in my bi's/tri's/brachioradialis. I'm taking an extra day off to recover. I will make today a cardio day

[papapumpsd]

Day 11:

So, I missed the gym yesterday. I thought it was open til at least 8pm, but it closes at 5pm. WTF! AHHHH. Anyways, it's ok as I was still sore.

Today was Chest/Abs. Decent workout. I weighed in at 188lbs, so I'm up 9lbs since the start. I don't appear to be any leaner (ugh). I am upping the cardio.

Diet: I'm eating very clean. The ONLY crap food I had was some pizza on Sun. night and I think that was A-OKAY since I was a little low on cals that day.

[BLACK747]

hey keep it up man it takes time you will get there

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by BLACK747

hey keep it up man it takes time you will get there

Thanks dewd...I know....I'm not expecting a shredded physique in 11 days' time. I was just HOPING to be a bit leaner. No worries. IGF-1 is for long term results....not a few weeks.

All in due time!

[Distilled Water]

As long as your not getting fatter....its all good....right? lol

[BLACK747]

thats right

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by Distilled Water

As long as your not getting fatter....its all good....right? lol

I'm with ya there brutha! I have been looking into frag 176.....buah-hahahaha!

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by papapumpsd

I'm with ya there brutha! I have been looking into frag 176.....buah-hahahaha!

Word of warning on 176. Yes it works very well (for me), however, it is so delicate, you almost NEVER get any that is undamaged. The few times I've gotten it, it was denaturated due to extreme conditions or handling. Most turned cloudy immediately upon recon which is indicative of the peptide chemical properties changing, no longer being soluable as an undamaged frag chain should be...
My last purchase was from IR. Turned cloudy in BW and was useless at even at 1500mcg/day... I bought so much (20+ g)I was hoping there might be a small vialble % in there somewhere thus the exterme dosing.
When the frag is good, it is clear in solution and works well at 500mcg/day for me.


Anyways, Good Luck on the rest of your log, Bro!

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

Word of warning on 176. Yes it works very well (for me), however, it is so delicate, you almost NEVER get any that is undamaged. The few times I've gotten it, it was denaturated due to extreme conditions or handling. Most turned cloudy immediately upon recon which is indicative of the peptide chemical properties changing, no longer being soluable as an undamaged frag chain should be...
My last purchase was from IR. Turned cloudy in BW and was useless at even at 1500mcg/day... I bought so much (20+ g)I was hoping there might be a small vialble % in there somewhere thus the exterme dosing.
When the frag is good, it is clear in solution and works well at 500mcg/day for me.


Anyways, Good Luck on the rest of your log, Bro!

Hmm...very good info Bob! Thank you dood. I will definitely keep that in mind.

Now, if I only had a PhD in Pharmacology, I could cleave the 176 from the parent peptide and have fresh in-house frag! HE HEEEE

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by papapumpsd

Hmm...very good info Bob! Thank you dood. I will definitely keep that in mind.

Now, if I only had a PhD in Pharmacology, I could cleave the 176 from the parent peptide and have fresh in-house frag! HE HEEEE

LOL Papa! If you had that much parent peptide (HGH) in hand, I think the last thing on your mind would be cleaving frags!

[rippedfreak123]

wats good papa..

bro im really interested in your results..

how the pumps..

and being that your working out several muscles a day are you just shooting up the last muscle worked?? sorry if written im busy as fuk at work but kinda swinging by the whole thread as im about to jump on MGF and IGF together

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by rippedfreak123

wats good papa..

bro im really interested in your results..

how the pumps..

and being that your working out several muscles a day are you just shooting up the last muscle worked?? sorry if written im busy as fuk at work but kinda swinging by the whole thread as im about to jump on MGF and IGF together

Heya Rip!

I know I'm not Papa, but yes, last muscle trained is what you want. This is because receptor saturation density is greatly increased in PWO muscles trained and does fall rather quickly.
Definitely the 1st muscles trained prior to the last muscle trained will no longer exhibit such a high saturation level.

[rippedfreak123]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

Heya Rip!

I know I'm not Papa, but yes, last muscle trained is what you want. This is because receptor saturation density is greatly increased in PWO muscles trained and does fall rather quickly.
Definitely the 1st muscles trained prior to the last muscle trained will no longer exhibit such a high saturation level.

sounds good bob..no wlemme ask you say i originally work out chest a tri last and i shoot up my trics the first week..should i keep hitting up the tris after that or shwitch the woprk out so i can hit chest also...

and papa im not trying to hijack im in your same boat brother...cheers to good gains

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

Heya Rip!

I know I'm not Papa, but yes, last muscle trained is what you want. This is because receptor saturation density is greatly increased in PWO muscles trained and does fall rather quickly.
Definitely the 1st muscles trained prior to the last muscle trained will no longer exhibit such a high saturation level.

Chime in anytime Bobas! Good input above.

Rip, my protocol is attached as a PDF in the 1st post (FYI). So, for example, if your subject works biceps and traps, immediately PWO you would administer IGF-1 into either biceps or traps (prob. best to choose the lagging muscle).

There really isn't a "BEST WAY" so-to-speak.....it's a lot of trial and error and figuring out "best practices" through scientific studies and what others report on here. I'm referring to IGF-1 in general.

But Bobas is accurate in shooting PWO in the muscles trained.

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by rippedfreak123

sounds good bob..no wlemme ask you say i originally work out chest a tri last and i shoot up my trics the first week..should i keep hitting up the tris after that or shwitch the woprk out so i can hit chest also...

and papa im not trying to hijack im in your same boat brother...cheers to good gains

Rip, in my attached file (1st post, at the bottom), the muscles in RED are the treated muscles. That is how I chose to administer IGF-1.