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Old 05-29-2008, 03:25 PM   #1
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gh first timer...

i want to do a cycle of straight gh for the sole purpose of cutting
ive done some test boosters, put on some size, and want to get ripped. im not a huge body builder...5'6, 165 ~ 10% bf, id rather walk around ripped with the mass i have.
whats a good dose to begin with and how long should the cycle last?
 
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Old 05-29-2008, 03:44 PM   #2
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[quote=drakx188;1374365]i want to do a cycle of straight gh for the sole purpose of cutting
ive done some test boosters, put on some size, and want to get ripped. im not a huge body builder...5'6, 165 ~ 10% bf, id rather walk around ripped with the mass i have.
whats a good dose to begin with and how long should the cycle last?
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Since it's your 1st post, you might want to try using "search" function (and "advanced" search). I use it often (believe it or not!).
 



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Old 05-29-2008, 09:57 PM   #3
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true true...ill edit that out didnt quite go over the rules all the much.
anyway about the doses...how about that?
 
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I think there are better alternatives for leaning up than spending that much money on growth, considering your statistics. I also wouldn't be purchasing from some random who goes to your gym.
 



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true true...ill edit that out didnt quite go over the rules all the much.
anyway about the doses...how about that?
Lower the GI of your carb sources...for example eat:

Pearled Barley
Lentils
Ezekiel Whole Grain Bread/ Ezekiel Pasta/ Ezekiel Cereal
Strawberries
Blueberries

Make sure you have 3 full hours between meals.

Cardio frequently.

Diet and physical activity are key components in getting ripped. At your age you should be able to get ripped w/o the exogenic administration of GH.

I don't mean this as a criticism bro...but you should already have the answer to your question since you seem to have already decided to use GH.

Most rational people who have no knowledge of GH figure this stuff out BEFORE they've come to a final decision on whether to use GH.
 
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:46 PM   #6
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diet:
morning, 6 eggs, 2 pieces whole grain toast, half grapefruit
2 hours later, protein shake, cup of oats, skim milk
2 hours later chicken, brown rice, broccoli
2 hours later, tuna, spinach, brown rice
shake after workout
turkey burger on piece of whole grain toast for dinner
(changes tiny bit daily between turkey, chicken, tuna, etc)

supps:
fish oil
arginine
leucine
l carnitine
protein
bcaas

workout 3 days a week, cardio 5 days a week, each cardio session is at least 45 mins, with a heart rate monitor keeping my heart rate zone in 160ish zone

have a good build, not losing anymore bf
not looking to get big, just shredded
so the first step is doing some research, deciding i want to try it, and now before i start doing anything, im trying to get as much info as i can by asking questions to knowledgeable people
 
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:16 PM   #7
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diet:
morning, 6 eggs, 2 pieces whole grain toast, half grapefruit
2 hours later, protein shake, cup of oats, skim milk
2 hours later chicken, brown rice, broccoli
2 hours later, tuna, spinach, brown rice
shake after workout
turkey burger on piece of whole grain toast for dinner
(changes tiny bit daily between turkey, chicken, tuna, etc)
Meals should be further apart.

Bread & rice have too much of an impact on blood glucose...replace them with low GI carbs.

Oats are fine...but they aren't low GI. Keep that in mind as you cut and replace them eventually w/ lower GI carb source.

Get rid of those shakes...particularly the first shake. Later you can eliminate the 2nd shake and replace it with a solid protein source.

If you want the Milk get lactose free skim which removes one of the sugars in milk. Think about dropping it as you get to a lower BF%.

Keep your good fats up throughout the day except PWO. Healthy oils, omega 3 fish oil, etc. Don't eat 6 eggs at once.

Damn you have so much room to improve in your diet... you can easily start losing fat again.

Keep the cardio up but don't drastically cut calories. Cutting calories too much at this point is not the answer. Lower calories is a tool to be used later IF needed.

For now you just need to eat in such a way as to not effect blood sugar too much. That means lower glycemic load (w/ low GI carbs and/or added fiber to the meal) and/or carb cycling.

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I know bro...thats why I took your followup post seriously.
 
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Keep the cardio up but don't drastically cut calories. Cutting calories too much at this point is not the answer. Lower calories is a tool to be used later IF needed.
Very good point. I did this and dropped a heap of weight. The problem being there was too much muscle loss. Keep calories clean and high.
 



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