- 05-11-2008, 01:13 PM
- 05-11-2008, 03:05 PM
i would use 2.5ml of water that way is simplest, so if you draw out 10iu's it will be 200mcgs, 25iu's would be 500mcgs and so on
- 05-11-2008, 08:51 PM
05-11-2008, 09:01 PM
nice. Dont know that ill do the mid night deal, but ill try the PostWO for awhile since im bulking and then try before bed sometime. I would do both but I WO at night around 9 and then get home around 10:15-10:30, so I guess ill get best of both worlds.
05-12-2008, 12:06 AM
05-12-2008, 12:13 AM
05-21-2008, 07:29 PM
lame pin question. Most dont alcohol swab on SubQ right?
Also, as a side note, you can buy ready shoot 29g slin pins/syringes but you cant buy the pins....? so a 10pack of ready to goes is $2.50...what kind of crap is that? haha oh well.
05-21-2008, 08:02 PM
05-21-2008, 08:06 PM
05-21-2008, 08:24 PM
05-27-2008, 06:40 PM
trip, it will be my first time with ghrp6 would 200mcg 2x a day be good? THis is pinned ed with low blood sugar levels?
05-27-2008, 08:56 PM
The studies on GHRP-6 refer to a saturation dose as being 100mcg w/ 20mcg being the minimum to illicit a response.
GHRP-6 is also an enhancer of slow wave sleep unlike Hexarelin...and it is during the first stage of slow wave sleep that the largest GH pulse of the day occurs in men.
So it would be good to take a dose of GHRP-6 just prior to bedtime.
Another good time to dose would be post-workout.
I've been using GHRP-6 all by itself twice a day (bedtime & PWO) at 100mcg each time. This is enough to illicit a hunger response w/o it being too intense. I did try 200mcg doses and liked that as well...but my experiment calls for examining a minimal dose.
I don't think you need to keep your blood sugar levels low.
Your protocol looks fine PP.
05-27-2008, 10:27 PM
BTW, if you have not come across this one (which I doubt since you are lean mean studyin' machine), this is a great 504 page e-book called:
"Growth Hormone Secretagogues in Clinical Practice"
Page 369+ has great info on GHRH, GHRP, and SWS in the normal adult male, as related to your posting.
05-27-2008, 10:39 PM
05-27-2008, 10:46 PM
Oh dam nice, looks like I got some good reading material to look over.
Piston: that protocol is good and very similar to what I do. I do 2 shots of 250mg lately, on workout days post workout, and a shot either before bed, or during the night.
I have to say i noticed extreme hunger the first few weeks, but that seems to be going away......this must mean I'm developing immunity or something.
05-27-2008, 11:23 PM
Is everyone doing every day? I thought most did 5on 2off or 4on 3off....
I was thining 2 on 2 off, off days i use Melatonin and GABA.
Is it worth mixing GHRP-6, GABA and Melatonin for bedtime?
05-27-2008, 11:27 PM
05-27-2008, 11:29 PM
05-28-2008, 01:03 AM
05-28-2008, 01:11 AM
so when would you dose the ghrp6 on non workout days considering the other dose would be before bed, when is the optimal time to take the other dose?
05-28-2008, 01:16 AM
SubQ is likely to result in a little slower release which is what you want.
05-28-2008, 01:16 AM
05-28-2008, 01:28 AM
05-29-2008, 03:39 AM
No you don't need the levels to be abnormally low for GHRP-6 to work...normal is fine.
HOWEVER you don't want them to be high as this will reduce the effect of GHRP-6.
From a paper by Naila Goldenberg, MD:
The GH response to (growth hormone releasing hormone) GHRH and (growth hormone secreatogues) GHS infusion after glucose load is attenuated in healthy volunteers [87,88], suggesting the rapid inhibitory effect of glucose on GH release may be caused by a discharge of (somatotropin release–inhibiting factor) SRIF from the hypothalamus.
When SRIF release declines, endogenous GHRH secretion is activated reciprocally, and available pituitary stores of GH are released, leading to the rebound increase in serum GH levels .
87 - Masuda A, Shibasaki T, Nakahara M, et al. The effect of glucose on growth hormone
(GH)-releasing hormone-mediated GH secretion in man. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1985;
88 - Broglio F, Benso A, Gottero C, et al. Effects of glucose, free fatty acids or arginine load
on the GH-releasing activity of ghrelin in humans. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf) 2002;57:
89 - Valcavi R, Zini M, Davoli S, et al. The late growth hormone rise induced by oral glucose is
enhanced by cholinergic stimulation with pyridostigmine in normal subjects. Clin Endocrinol
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