[djbombsquad]

What is the difference?

[djbombsquad]

bump?!?!?

[Bobaslaw]

Both are SARMs that were created by GTX for different purposes.
It seems the target market for Ostarine is Andropause and the target for Andarine are Cancer Patients as it supposedly flys under the radar of cancer and does not stimulate its growth.

Couple of links:

Ostarine
http://www.ergogenics.org/ostarine.html

Andarine
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/s...07/story1.html

[djbombsquad]

Thanks. That is what I figured. Im glad you cleared things up for me.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

Thanks. That is what I figured. Im glad you cleared things up for me.

NP Wish there was more detailed info, however have not found much more than this...

[djbombsquad]

So do you think its safe to start using sarms. I know its fairly new as far as still not in phaze 3 fda testing.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

So do you think its safe to start using sarms. I know its fairly new as far as still not in phaze 3 fda testing.

Safe compared to what, a bowl of tapioca pudding??

Not like research peptides are in ANY phase of FDA testing and we use those based on our own research info and anecdotal evidence.
Same can be said about steroids, the way we use them here.

Wait a bit and see if BabyBlu keeps posting while running S-4. As long as he does, thats enough for me

[djbombsquad]

Your right. Soon as I can afford it I would love to try it.

I was thinking safe compared to superdrol haladrol pp, epistane etc. Maybe a stack? I still have some HD and PP left and epistane. For a future cycle.

[SOLARUS]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

Wait a bit and see if BabyBlu keeps posting while running S-4. As long as he does, thats enough for me

i saw the clinical profile on S-4 and was far from impressed....plus i make a point not to listen to the salesman when considering a purchase.

i believe there is a future to SARMs, but i dont think S-4 is it...

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by SOLARUS

i saw the clinical profile on S-4 and was far from impressed....plus i make a point not to listen to the salesman when considering a purchase.

i believe there is a future to SARMs, but i dont think S-4 is it...

I agree. I did not see anything striking about S-4 on paper.

I'd rather wait for SARMS that are not selective for the pituitary and hypothalamus than the prostate and such...

[djbombsquad]

On a scale of 1-11 so the effectiveness seems like a 7 out of 11.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by djbombsquad

On a scale of 1-11 so the effectiveness seems like a 7 out of 11.

hmmm. effectiveness? what effect are you judging. Strength, Hypertrophy, Liver Values, HDL/LDL, etc? What are you comparing this to? Test, Deca, Tren, etc?
Pretty general statement, and in itself has no real meaning.

BTW, why "1-11"?!

On a scale of 9 to -5, my confusion level is a 11 here

[djbombsquad]

Well I was thinking like strength, size compared to like superdrol, epistane. I know the sides are way better than something like superdrol hyperdrol etc no liver toxicity; no affect on the prostate no effect on breast tissue no effect on the heart and minimal effect on HPTA I know. I was thinking maybe stack with a low dose of epistane or low dose of superdrol.

[SOLARUS]

Originally Posted by Bobaslaw

hmmm. effectiveness? what effect are you judging. Strength, Hypertrophy, Liver Values, HDL/LDL, etc? What are you comparing this to? Test, Deca, Tren, etc?
Pretty general statement, and in itself has no real meaning.

BTW, why "1-11"?!

On a scale of 9 to -5, my confusion level is a 11 here

lol....on a scale of leprechauns to boll weevils my confusion is a Model T Ford.

[Bobaslaw]

Originally Posted by SOLARUS

lol....on a scale of leprechauns to boll weevils my confusion is a Model T Ford.

LOL! I'm still trying to figure out which is the better end of your scale.
Actually I think I'll go with the Leprechaun!

[TheCrownedOne]

Originally Posted by SOLARUS

i saw the clinical profile on S-4 and was far from impressed....plus i make a point not to listen to the salesman when considering a purchase.

i believe there is a future to SARMs, but i dont think S-4 is it...

Second that.

[comacho]

once my injury heals i will do a full two month cycle of S4 at 200mg/day

i maybe running that with some peps but depends on timing.

currently doing 3on 4 off using S4 (200mg/day),its a new way of pulsing, talked to some people that has done that with mdrol and such with no sides for months, where regular pulse fck people up.

lets not debate about that pulse...just letting you know i will be logging soon after my tri's heal.

so far on 'ON' days, i feel good psychologically, not much growth, just hardness i feel during 3days of on, wonder how others will do at higher dosage and longer duration?


when i first heard of S4 i was let down that it still affected HPTA, but nontheless it sounds interesting so im taking it.

i would love to try future SARM's that wont affect HPTA and only muscles....sweeet! i will be on something like that rest of my life.

imagine females using these stuff with no androgenic sides, thats going to replace alot of chemicals in the future, anxillary and so on. **** it will replace everything for both men and women.