injecting igf-1 into abs?
01-23-2008 07:38 PM
injecting igf-1 into abs?
Anyone tried it before? I have been working on building my abs up for a while and this would be something fun to try out, haven't heard of anyone else doing it before though.
I'm currently using it 3x week at 40mcg immediately PWO
01-23-2008 08:47 PM
Don't do this unless you want your intestines to grow
01-23-2008 10:49 PM
well it all goes back to the argument of spot specific growth and whether or not PW shots really do directly effect the muscle worked. There are plenty of arguments both ways I personally have done both ways and saw no difference but to each his own. Either way I probably wouldn't take the chance just in case
01-23-2008 11:03 PM
wrong? your intestines aren't gonna grow unless your husing high doses for a long time. injecting into your abs is not gonna be different than injecting into your bi's. just because they are closer to your intestines does not mean anything, the igf-1 travels through the bloodstream where it travels to the heart (no igf-1 receptors so no worries) and continues through the system.
Originally Posted by Skircus7
01-23-2008 11:05 PM
thats a good point. however, i have spoken with at least 50 users and every single one of them has reported site specific growth, not immediate growth but within a little time. One guy I know on another forum who is a vet and really knows his stuff said his calves had not grown in years and after using igf-1 he added an inch to his calves in little time
Originally Posted by jminis
01-23-2008 11:10 PM
Then try it and let us know if you guts grow or your abs grow.
01-24-2008 01:12 AM
I agree. As long as you are just injecting a small amount pwo, i would think it should be fine. Your abs start like 4 inches from your pecs and people have no problem injecting those. I don't know why you would want to grow out your abs but to each his own. In the end you still might like look you got that gh gut cause your abs have gotten bigger but I don't see why your intestines would grow from this.
Originally Posted by sam salters
01-24-2008 08:11 AM
01-24-2008 02:45 PM
thats awesome man, glad your finally off your meds
Originally Posted by datBtrue
ive read stories from a few guys on hgh or igf-1 that had surgery and healed at amazing rates, like 9 inch incisions that should take weeks to fully heal being healed in 5 or 6 days
01-24-2008 06:36 PM
I was one of the first few humans to use IGF and I've seen literally hundreds of users and honestly they've noticed only temporary injection site improvement, most likely from the solvents irritating the tissues. All reported no intestinal growth, and honestly after all this time and people there is nothing more than theoretical BS and fools repeating it when it comes to it causing GH gut from IGF. That comes from super heavy lifting and insane food quantities combined with slin as well as IGF or GH. Not to mention, since IGF's effects are systemic, why would you say that abdominal injections would cause intestinal growth, as if delt injects wouldn't? That's repeating crap write-ups by theorists who need to stop writing and start lifting. I'm sure that since we've studied it A LOT together, Jminis would agree.
01-24-2008 06:46 PM
Yea I think it would be great to do subq so that it gets even amounts every where. Looks like getting in the blood would be better and have it circulate it threw out the whole body.
01-24-2008 08:37 PM
Even IM it mostly goes systemic.
Originally Posted by djbombsquad
01-24-2008 09:50 PM
I mean heck if its only going to speed it up by a small % than why go threw the pain when SubQ is zero pain compared to the some pain or lot of pain you do with IM.
01-24-2008 11:34 PM
Because people are gullible and believe everything they read. They think if it's in a write-up or has a study with it, it must be the Gospel, despite everyday experiences showing otherwise.
Originally Posted by djbombsquad
01-25-2008 11:02 AM
I agree w/u N4cer. In fact I believe that human prescription igf products are indeed injected subQ. The only issue I have is the AA, and whether injecting shallowly under the skin can cause any problems. I 'heard' one guy who injected subQ and the AA ate thru his skin, but of course thats bromythology & no telling even if true if the guy diluted w/BW or sterile water.
01-25-2008 11:41 AM
Well, the one I know too well was using BA. Remember, BA worked great for years before a certain source decided to use AA as a selling point. It's good since the BA won't work with the Chinese IGF for reasons you are aware of. But yes, the guy didn't use enough bact. water.
Originally Posted by babyblu
01-25-2008 12:49 PM
Yeah Im sure BA has less 'sting' to it.
01-25-2008 01:31 PM
BA has way more sting. It's straight alcohol. Melted the skin right between his fingers. I'll tell you more some day.
01-25-2008 07:51 PM
I once had BA & BB on my hands for an hour and my hands became like sandpaper...it was very nasty. It makes you think about using those solvents beneath your skin...can't be good.
Originally Posted by N4cer
01-26-2008 02:01 PM
This thread is good. I agree with N4cer. You have to think about how many things the pros use to get that big. And with heavy squats and deads of course itll grow their gut more. I see it even when i used to do deads religiously, my gut would firm up and bulge.
I think that this is good becasue most of the time people do tend to latch onto one theory and run with it. The only way to do it is research for yourself guys.
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