[dangerbird]

Im looking at using ghrp and have searched the forums and google for dosages during injury and cant find anything. whats the best frequency with injections is it like igf where you do every 3 days? im looking to buy like 5 grams of it how long will that last me for also?

[Marc-Antony]

Originally Posted by dangerbird

Im looking at using ghrp and have searched the forums and google for dosages during injury and cant find anything. whats the best frequency with injections is it like igf where you do every 3 days? im looking to buy like 5 grams of it how long will that last me for also?

150-500mcg/day. I won't get into the details, when, how much and how to inject. Just know that ghrp6 stimulates the anterior pituitary gland, stimulating hgh and -ghrelin- release.

[babyblu]

Based on the assumption you live in a country where this product is legal for human use, the dosage would be 500 micrograms daily. 10 days from 5mg. Most research in countries where this has been legally tested was done sub-Q.

bb

[neverstop]

be sure to let us know how this goes, sounds like this could be a good chemical to use with IGF to help provide all ingredients needed for building new cells. when you do it maybe a short log would be cool ?

[ludacris007]

i personally used 150 then gradually increased the dose to see what would happen. 500 was too much bc i didnt feel like there was much return using that high of a dosage. I think that 300 was perfect for me. but you need to start low and go up and find ur sweet spot.

[neverstop]

how long after your first does did it take before you started feeling anything? if you've done IGF would you say it had stronger effects or weaker effects?

[ludacris007]

u feel the hunger almost imediately. I def like the fact I leaned out a bit while gaining about 4-5 lbs. it is really good for appetite issues. igf really leans me out but I have fatigue issues and some hand pain. I am on day 30 of 40 of igf1 using 50 mcg eod. overall I am 205 lbs and going by what I see in the mirror 8 to 10 per cent bf. ghrp-6 in summary is good for appetite and leaning effects and may help with ur joints

[Marc-Antony]

Originally Posted by ludacris007

u feel the hunger almost imediately. I def like the fact I leaned out a bit while gaining about 4-5 lbs. it is really good for appetite issues. igf really leans me out but I have fatigue issues and some hand pain. I am on day 30 of 40 of igf1 using 50 mcg eod. overall I am 205 lbs and going by what I see in the mirror 8 to 10 per cent bf. ghrp-6 in summary is good for appetite and leaning effects and may help with ur joints

leaning out on ghrp6 ... congrats bro ...

So you are stacking igf/ghrp6 ... right?

It is my impression that it is best to use hexa/ghrp/cjc for igf pct ... but hey if you are seeing good gains ...

[neverstop]

marc:

i've read many of our postings and you seem like you know your stuff better than i do,

i'm sure using IGF causes a reaction somewhere and i have read that it can decrease your naturual GH production for a time after you use it but not finding much good info on what to use after IGF to bring everything back to a normal state quickly, wondering when you say "igf Pct" what you mean specifically, as in what is used, for how long, at what dose, etc...

any links or info would be greatly appreciated!

[chainsaw]

Originally Posted by neverstop

marc:

i've read many of our postings and you seem like you know your stuff better than i do,

i'm sure using IGF causes a reaction somewhere and i have read that it can decrease your naturual GH production for a time after you use it but not finding much good info on what to use after IGF to bring everything back to a normal state quickly, wondering when you say "igf post cycle therapy" what you mean specifically, as in what is used, for how long, at what dose, etc...

any links or info would be greatly appreciated!

I will BUMP for this, I never heard of a PCT for IGF.

[Marc-Antony]

Originally Posted by b_delgros

I will BUMP for this, I never heard of a post cycle therapy for IGF.

Basically, any hormonal injection will shut you down (at varrying degrees, depending on your use of exogenous compounds, and the nature of said compounds). Test will shut your Hyptotalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis, exogenous Hgh will shut your anterior pituitary gland production, and exogenous igf will shut your hgh production (igf produced in the liver after hgh stimulation).

It all comes down to Homeostasis, and negative feedback.

Homeostasis is one of the fundamental characteristics of living things. It refers to the maintenance of the internal environment within tolerable limits. All sorts of factors affect the suitability of our body fluids to sustain life; these include properties like temperature, salinity, acidity, and the concentrations of nutrients and wastes. Because these properties affect the chemical reactions that keep us alive, we have built-in physiological mechanisms to maintain them at desirable levels.
When a change occurs in the body, there are two general ways that the body can respond. In negative feedback, the body responds in such a way as to reverse the direction of change. Because this tends to keep things constant, it allows us to maintain homeostasis. On the other hand, positive feedback is also possible.

So, injecting igf will shut you down, I don't know to what extent, and I don't know how fast endogenous igf/hgh will get back to homeostasis the natural way (as no research has been conducted on this matter for what I know).

This leads me to my point, reliable sources have indicated that injecting hgh secretagogues such as Hexa, ghrp6, (even cjc, but little plp have experimented with this peptide) as a post cycle igf therapy (this means exactly what it sounds like, post cycle therapy for igf, there is post cycle therapy for test cycles, now you can have your igf post cycle therapy) to help your hgh and igf production get back to your pre-igf level.

Say for example, you are doing a 5 week igf cycle, EOD, bilat, IM, postwo injections. 40:50:60:80:100 (I don't recommand this protocol, but my rat did run it, and I think it is a good one, to assess how you respond to igf, for a first cycle, even a second, or third cycle).

Ok, say your last injection was on friday night, you could do a ghrp6, hexa post cycle therapy.

saturday morning: 300mcg grp6 (hungry, better inject in the morning, although, this could "mess" with your natural hgh production, esp. after a cycle, but most ppl are more than fine, so this shouldn't be a problem). sat eve: 150mcg hexa, both subQ (abdomen will do, it doesn't make much sens to do localized injection with a hgh secretagogue), and you do that for five days ... 2 off, for a total of 3 weeks.

ghrp6 from 100mcg to 600mcg
hexa from 100mcg to 300mcg (my impression (from various readings) is that saturation happens around 3mcg/kg, not 2mcg/kg as you migth have read) ... but that's just sementics, you'll have to experiment, and see for yourself.

If, you were to run only one compound I would do PM (prior bed) injections (seeing as your hgh level will be pretty low, so you would spike your endogenous hgh; hgh production spikes 40 minutes post inject, and drops after 4 hours). Synchronizing your injections with your natural hgh production.

[ludacris007]

Originally Posted by Marc-Antony

leaning out on ghrp6 ... congrats bro ...

So you are stacking igf/ghrp6 ... right?

It is my impression that it is best to use hexa/ghrp/cjc for igf post cycle therapy ... but hey if you are seeing good gains ...

No. I am using them seperately. I used ghrp-6 earlier this year bc i wanted the appetite inc as well as some help with the joints. I am currently on IGF-1 only and I will be using ghrp-6 kinda as a pct for this current cycle. I have read that using ghrp-6 will restore gh secretion as igf-1 has a suppressive effect on this similar to a test cycle on the hpta. I will also have some on hand when I do an anavar/hgh-frag176/pegmgf cycle early next year just in case I have appetite issues. I am also looking into cjc-1295 to see if that can be cost effective as well as a stack with hexeralin, but hex seems to be very hard to come by. but in summary, ghrp is great for appetite and thus calorie increases for bulk while keeping the gains fairly lean( abs became more defined, lost some fat in the oblique region). it helped my joints bc i have had to major ops on my left knee and it kept it pain free while doin cardio. I hope this helps and I will post when I find out some more during my research.

[neverstop]

Originally Posted by Marc-Antony

Basically, any hormonal injection will shut you down (at varrying degrees, depending on your use of exogenous compounds, and the nature of said compounds). Test will shut your Hyptotalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis, exogenous Hgh will shut your anterior pituitary gland production, and exogenous igf will shut your hgh production (igf produced in the liver after hgh stimulation).

It all comes down to Homeostasis, and negative feedback.

Homeostasis is one of the fundamental characteristics of living things. It refers to the maintenance of the internal environment within tolerable limits. All sorts of factors affect the suitability of our body fluids to sustain life; these include properties like temperature, salinity, acidity, and the concentrations of nutrients and wastes. Because these properties affect the chemical reactions that keep us alive, we have built-in physiological mechanisms to maintain them at desirable levels.
When a change occurs in the body, there are two general ways that the body can respond. In negative feedback, the body responds in such a way as to reverse the direction of change. Because this tends to keep things constant, it allows us to maintain homeostasis. On the other hand, positive feedback is also possible.

So, injecting igf will shut you down, I don't know to what extent, and I don't know how fast endogenous igf/hgh will get back to homeostasis the natural way (as no research has been conducted on this matter for what I know).

This leads me to my point, reliable sources have indicated that injecting hgh secretagogues such as Hexa, ghrp6, (even cjc, but little plp have experimented with this peptide) as a post cycle igf therapy (this means exactly what it sounds like, post cycle therapy for igf, there is post cycle therapy for test cycles, now you can have your igf post cycle therapy) to help your hgh and igf production get back to your pre-igf level.

Say for example, you are doing a 5 week igf cycle, EOD, bilat, IM, postwo injections. 40:50:60:80:100 (I don't recommand this protocol, but my rat did run it, and I think it is a good one, to assess how you respond to igf, for a first cycle, even a second, or third cycle).

Ok, say your last injection was on friday night, you could do a ghrp6, hexa post cycle therapy.

saturday morning: 300mcg grp6 (hungry, better inject in the morning, although, this could "mess" with your natural hgh production, esp. after a cycle, but most ppl are more than fine, so this shouldn't be a problem). sat eve: 150mcg hexa, both subQ (abdomen will do, it doesn't make much sens to do localized injection with a hgh secretagogue), and you do that for five days ... 2 off, for a total of 3 weeks.

ghrp6 from 100mcg to 600mcg
hexa from 100mcg to 300mcg (my impression (from various readings) is that saturation happens around 3mcg/kg, not 2mcg/kg as you migth have read) ... but that's just sementics, you'll have to experiment, and see for yourself.

If, you were to run only one compound I would do PM (prior bed) injections (seeing as your hgh level will be pretty low, so you would spike your endogenous hgh; hgh production spikes 40 minutes post inject, and drops after 4 hours). Synchronizing your injections with your natural hgh production.

thanks man, that is great stuff, this should be in the IGF sticky. damnit though....that makes my cheap IGF cycles get pretty pricey....

[djbombsquad]

Can I do GHRP6 for 8 weeks. I was plaining 15o x2. for 8 weeks.

[yetton]

ba bye

[papapumpsd]

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[Iron Lungz]

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