these two things were hot topic not too long ago....any new news with regards to either?
yea..agreed...just thought there would be some underground research innovation..I think they went the way of the battery operated car.
As of current, it's safer and more effective to do what we've been doing.
this is true...it will still be interesting to see how they fit into the bodybuilding world...if at all.I never really saw the point behind SARM's for use as an anabolic. Blocked AR's will just tell the body it doesn't need as many androgens to function. It might be useful for MPB or BPH, but other than that, meh, I dunno.
Why would you want to block AR's in the muscle? That would do to your muscles what Nolvadex does to gyno.I thought SARM's were Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators? Wouldnt SARMs selectivity for the Androgen receptors specifically in muscle tissue and with no affinity for Androgen receptors on the hypothalamus cause the body not to downregulate androgen production as it does not detect it at the hypothalamus? I thought that was the reason for the interest.
-Soma
Have you read the studies with S-4? I cant remember specifics but I read a few a while back and I thought it looked very very promising.I never really saw the point behind SARM's for use as an anabolic. Blocked AR's will just tell the body it doesn't need as many androgens to function. It might be useful for MPB or BPH, but other than that, meh, I dunno.
Gotcha...maybe I'll grab some abstracts and post them later.Haven't read the studies. I'm speaking in theoretics in this thread. It hasn't really interested me so much yet to look into further.
I think I read a few of them a while ago in misc places...i do remember it looking the look wave of the future for bodybuilding. However, nothing works like it does on paper.Gotcha...maybe I'll grab some abstracts and post them later.
Yeah there is a ton of info if you just search "SARM" on pudmed (lol I mean pubmed). Looks like its a ways off from our scene though.I think I read a few of them a while ago in misc places...i do remember it looking the look wave of the future for bodybuilding. However, nothing works like it does on paper.
yea hahaha "pudmed" nice one....anyway I think roids will do us just fine and dandy for a while.Yeah there is a ton of info if you just search "SARM" on pudmed (lol I mean pubmed). Looks like its a ways off from our scene though.
Well nolvadex is an estrogen receptor antagonist in some tissues(and an agonist in others), but if the SARMs were agonists(like testosterone) of the androgen receptor, but with selectivity for primarily muscle tissue then i would think there could be a benefit for muscle development.Why would you want to block AR's in the muscle? That would do to your muscles what Nolvadex does to gyno.
right, and different SARM's are created for different functions. Not all are for skeletal muscle growth. Some may be specifically for treating osteoporosis in men for exampleWell nolvadex is an estrogen receptor antagonist in some tissues(and an agonist in others), but if the SARMs were agonists(like testosterone) of the androgen receptor, but with selectivity for primarily muscle tissue then i would think there could be a benefit for muscle development.
-Soma
Blocking anti-bodies, this ain't a 'product', it's only application is in the lab for the kind of guys that make studies in pubmed.anyone heard of this company or this new sarm product?
http://www.biocompare.com/itemdetails.asp?itemid=705873
Was this directed at me? I wasn't talking about SARMs in general but the one posted in the post I quoted.Wrong. SARMS will be another weapon in the arsenal and very soon. I will be running S-4 VERY soon (within a month), if the raw material is soluble in peg300 or everclear. You just have to know the right people....
bb
Be sure to update us man.No Zircote not directed at you; at those who think SARMs are some far-off product or non-existent fairy tales. They are real and they are available. And I am excited.....
bb
NO. Those are NOT real SARMs. SARMS are medicines that are in clinical testing, not something these supp companies are selling at GNC. You cant buy a SARM just anywhere :blink:What category would RPM from App Nut, p-sarm, or sarm-x fall into then? I thought these were SARMs? Maybe I'm wrong. Dunno.
Good question Neoboob, I'm sure someone here knows.Why is sterile water better?
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