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View Poll Results: is IGF-1 worth it? price to benefiets?
yes the stuff is great 102 75.56%
no what a waste 33 24.44%
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:11 PM   #61
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Not worht the risk. I have heard of brain tumors caused by igf.
CAUSED by? Or exacerbated by?
 
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Effects are seemingly much less when using this generic Chinese crap as opposed to the GroPep.
Not all of us can afford GroPep N4cer

I have seen and used quite a bit of igf over the past couple of years. I miss the pre-ORD days fo sho!

I have used GroPep and generic chinese. I do think the GroPep was better but I have seen (not ran) 97-98% chinese igf that I would say would be very close to GroPep.

Igf is a great peptide but I do get tired of the lethargy.

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Old 01-23-2008, 09:39 AM   #63
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LOL the Chinese is good. I just had a bad first experience. Maybe I should give it another go.
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:48 AM   #64
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A friend has Getropin igf.

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Old 01-23-2008, 11:30 AM   #65
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CAUSED by? Or exacerbated by?
Caused by....
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:52 AM   #66
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Caused by....
Wow. You need to kick your source of info in the nuts. IGF is NOT carcinogenic.
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:31 PM   #67
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Nothing has pointed to IGF CAUSING such a thing. That's like people accusing steroids for hair loss. If your predisposed for it the process just speeds up.
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:11 PM   #68
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Nothing has pointed to IGF CAUSING such a thing. That's like people accusing steroids for hair loss. If your predisposed for it the process just speeds up.
Yeah! 'Cause if that were true, Jminis would have cancer in his penis since he did a hardcore regimen of penile IGF injects.
 
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:14 AM   #69
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I prefer the hitting my anal sphincter with alternating igf/mgf cycles.....

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Old 01-28-2008, 09:43 AM   #70
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I voted yes.....but at low doses.
 
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They say a high dose of EPA is as good as IGF ; it’s anti-catabolic effects are shown to be even more potent than IGF-1 from what I understand. Id go with GHRP6 and MGF.
Where did you hear that EPA is as good as IGF-1. If that's true I should be injecting fish oil.
 
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:54 AM   #72
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I voted yes.....but at low doses.
Take 100mcg/day for 30 days and tell me it's not worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 02-12-2008, 07:55 AM   #73
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as long as you have good igf and use enough it is well worth it. i have used it many of times and loved the results. i know alot of people that are cheap and try to get away with shooting 40mcgs a day so they dont have to buy 2 or 3 bottles and then wonder why they are not having good results. 50mcgs shot twice a day works great for me
 
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:50 AM   #74
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i voted yes. im now opening my mind to the notion, that many others have, that good old IGF-1 injected several times a day is better than LR3 because it stays site specific and does not go systemic. After this next course im doing(mgf+lr3 igf-1) im going to do an mgf+igf-1(non lr3) to compare the difference and see if there is any site specific growth.
for the same reasons I also feel that regular mgf injections may be more effective than less frequent peg-MGF ones.

I dont mind being a pin cushion, a few years back I did a long pgf2a course, nothing will ever compare to how bad that **** makes you feel. lol on my first day I really believed I was going to be found dead on the shitter.
 
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I have been reading on another forum that IGF DOES NOT cause hyperplasia and its main intent is for muscle hypertrophy. I reading the debate as it goes on but any more info showing IGF does or does not cause hyperplasia would be a great benefit, because if it does not cause hyperplasia then I would feel it is useless for that is the only reason I would take it for.
 
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:05 AM   #76
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I have been reading on another forum that IGF DOES NOT cause hyperplasia and its main intent is for muscle hypertrophy. I reading the debate as it goes on but any more info showing IGF does or does not cause hyperplasia would be a great benefit, because if it does not cause hyperplasia then I would feel it is useless for that is the only reason I would take it for.

the original study with IGF-1 (not LR3 version) in mice proved hyperplasia, after they dissected the infused muscles and counted the number of fibres so im still with the belief it does but as I said im of the thinking that LR3 becomes systemic and hence we are not seeing these effects.
 
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pumbertot- You dont belive igf/hgh/mgf can cause hyperplasmia in humans? Only certain animals?..
 
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pumbertot- You dont belive igf/hgh/mgf can cause hyperplasmia in humans? Only certain animals?..
no on the contrary, i do believe. but im of the opinion that when gropep made the LR3 version, it took away some of the anabolic properties of the original IGF-1 peptide which was identical to the body's own version. also site specific growth was more likely with non LR3.

with mgf im just not sure yet but ive heard more positive results from the non-peg version. maybe pegylation has altered the peptide too greatly? i know 2 people very well that have made incredible site specific growth to their biceps, tris and delts with regular mgf. I mean freaky size differences in the space of a few months so my money is on that form.

hgh im unsure of with hyperplasia but certainly hypertrophy and fat loss make it very worthwhile imo.