IGF-1 worth it?
- 08-20-2007, 05:49 PM
- 08-20-2007, 07:45 PM
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08-20-2007, 10:16 PM
I say worth it. It's always under a bill for a mg.
Anywho I need some M1T this december..... Somebody needs to start carrying this sh1t. Ahhh. M1T + IGF1. I'll probably be so miserable on cycle that I'll wanna die. M1T...IGF1... and some Epistane with IGF1 and test prop.
08-24-2007, 02:56 PM
i love it for injuries.
i used it on and off for over a year. like it but wasn't really worth the $ for th results. However i usually have some sitting around so that i can jump right on it if i have an muscle tendon issues.
If i didn't take AP i probably would still be cycling it.
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08-24-2007, 08:28 PM
does this stuff have the same effects as what the life sciences researchers use? i am talking about what the mr's and ag's type outfits sells over the internet (or the joe blow hush mail sellers that claim 97% pure product)?if not then how can these so call peptides work as good as users report? and can you always trust the quality of some chinese powders now a days? i have read from a few bb sites,word searched, i even brought some gh frag and used it for about 8 wks myself with no noticable results. how can anybody prove that this stuff works?
08-24-2007, 11:09 PM
08-26-2007, 08:11 PM
08-26-2007, 09:23 PM
08-26-2007, 11:10 PM
LR3-IGF-1 is it really worth it in it's available from?
this stuff is more for the I-lite(elite) megabucks baller athletes then for the body building enthusis like most of us, all i can say is that i am hopeful but skeptical that oneday beyond any doubt in my mind That LR3 IGF-1 WILL TAKE ME THERE i guess i need more convincing thats all.
08-27-2007, 06:56 AM
09-04-2007, 10:55 AM
09-09-2007, 09:30 AM
09-09-2007, 10:56 AM
Igf-1 is going to work best when stacked with anabolics the obvious choice is test, i've only used Oratropin which i LOVED and will most definitely use again, but i also want to try the injectable and do 40mcg eod for 20 weeks. Good info on igf-1 over at professionalmuscle, eod seems to be the way to go you use less and it stays effective, guys have run it as long as 20 weeks with consistant gains.
09-17-2007, 02:44 PM
id just like to bump this up again. Thing is i just bought some receptor grade from a reputable source and i was wondering if the receptor grade has a noticable difference from media grade as far as the user can tell. Ill be able to answer this poll in a month or so
09-17-2007, 02:48 PM
09-17-2007, 02:49 PM
09-18-2007, 10:47 PM
09-19-2007, 01:06 AM
the difference in doses makes a huge difference for me in media grade. Gavin Kane SWEARS receptor grade is 3x stronger and while he may not be a pure scientist like PA, he is a smart guy...
For receptor I notice MUCH more at 80mcg post workout 3 times a week. Because I only workout 3 times a week I am sure some of the "over flow" hits the other muscle groups I worked that day as well.
09-19-2007, 05:56 AM
10-16-2007, 06:22 AM
My approach is different. I like small doses of 20mcg (split 10mcg bi-laterally) for long runs. It is a slow drip approach which works well for me and enhances my physique in noticable 3 month chunks (as opposed to seeing results right away).
10-16-2007, 07:31 AM
10-16-2007, 06:34 PM
In PCT I'll dose 20mcg everyday even when there is no workout. Nonworkout days my only constant is to take it before a meal with a solid amount of carbs.
An example of a low dose everyday potocol is Dave Palumbo's:
11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 1) 333 micrograms
2 weeks OFF
11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 2) 333 micrograms
2 weeks OFF
11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 3) 333 micrograms
8 weeks OFF
10-17-2007, 04:07 AM
10-17-2007, 05:01 AM
So why is that protocol working? A. L. Rea has written that insulin shuttles only some amino acids into muscle and that GH shuttles the rest of the amino acid profile. This is suppose to account for the growth that guys are witnessing. But my very limited research indicates that insulin is capable of shuttling all the aminos except Tryptophan...so who knows.
The GH is reducing insulins ability to shuttle into fat cells and the insulin is reducing the side-effects from the GH.
My question is does administering IGF-1 LR3 and insulin together PWO during a steroid cycle create any synergy? I don't know but I am experimenting in part because I have no GH to experiment with at the moment.
I do know that it takes a lot of nutrients to "grow" out those sat cells and insulin really pushes those nutrients so there may be a benefit. It is to early to tell...however recovery & strength are up as a result of the combo...
So what is the best use of IGF-1 by itself?
I believe that it is indespensible for PCT. The reason appears to be that it increases Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone which further stimulates FSH.
I do believe that you will get some site specific enhancement that will show up down the road. I once did a low dose cycle of IGF-1 and injected mainly in the forearms...I witnessed increased veins that are present still almost a year later & within 5 months I noticed some strength and size gains.
10-21-2007, 04:24 PM
with all that said i think you HAVE to use this drug immediately after working out 15-30 min or else you miss out.
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