Herniated disks, GH, and IGF-1...

[CRUNCH]

So my herniated L4-5 came back with a vengance after my event practice on Sunday. I can barely walk today, and it hurts like mofo!!!

Will GH and/or IGF-1 help this? If so, could somebody (Grunt?) give me a protocol?

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I've got an L5 herniation from years ago and can't say that the gh/igf is helping that area since it's so effected by compression and heavy lifting does so much to compress the spine, and I'm lifting more because the rest of me is feeling so good.

What type of lifting do you do?

[stxnas]

Subscribed (I have this same problem)

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What do you guy's do as therapy to keep it from getting bad?

I'm usung Inversion Therapy where I hang from the hips to decompress the spine, this works better than anything.

I'm only 3 weeks into igf/gh so maybe someting will happen, but my other injuries are already feeling better and may back is not,

[CRUNCH]

I've got an L5 herniation from years ago and can't say that the gh/igf is helping that area since it's so effected by compression and heavy lifting does so much to compress the spine, and I'm lifting more because the rest of me is feeling so good.

What type of lifting do you do?

I do strongman comps. It was those damn atlas stones that got me this time. I originally herniated it about seven years ago doing a truck deadlift. After watching the video, you can see where I lost my form and rounded out my shoulders as I pulled. It's a central herniation so there's no pain going down either leg, which is good I suppose. Any bending forward kills me right now! Frustrating!!

That's a bummer the GH/IGF isn't helping you. What did you do to injure it?

[CRUNCH]

What do you guy's do as therapy to keep it from getting bad?

I'm usung Inversion Therapy where I hang from the hips to decompress the spine, this works better than anything.

I'm only 3 weeks into igf/gh so maybe someting will happen, but my other injuries are already feeling better and may back is not,

Right now, just a good chiropractor, some stretches I learned from the first time around with this and lots of ice packs.

[Amazon Doll]

One the severe inflamation is down, I would highly recomend you getting going on this inversion stuff. Not now, wait untill the inflamation subsides.

I did mine 20 years ago deadlifting and I really havent DL'ed since. I can still squat ok I'm messing around with Olympic Lifting now

Those Strongman comps can be murder since the weights you pick up are ackward & uneven.

I can't say I believe that gh /igf promotes heling, but I must believe it a bit, because I am injecting my gh IM in the front delt where I strained it!

[CRUNCH]

You might try the IGF locally, after you've worked shoulders, or done what you can with them. It has more of an affect that way. I don't think the GH does anything locally, so that can just be shot in the stomach skin. Give that a try.

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I'm putting my am gh in the front delt & the pm igf there

now if I could just reach that inflamation above the iliac crest maybe I could work on that low back problem

How are you feeling today?

as much as I hate corto(sp) steriods, a shot of depo-something as helped when the inflamation is sky high

[CRUNCH]

I'd say about 50% better today (thnaks for asking), which is encouraging. As I'm typing, I'm using my lifting belt to hold an ice pack against my lower back. Brrr!

Something else I did when this first happened you might want to try. Get some DMSO and crush up some aspirin in it. That works extremely well for inflamation. But your boyfriend or husband won't like it too much as you'll smell like garlic and oysters. Amazing stuff though. You will be able to taste it a little within minutes of putting it on your skin.

I'll be doing the DMSO/aspirin tomorrow if it's not 50% better again.

[Amazon Doll]

haha................dmso does stink!

I use it all the time. I even used it for my first cycle (transdermal) a few years ago. I just used it to help heal a sprained ankle

Sitting is one of the worst things to do for a compression injury and L5 is even the worst for sitting at the computer. that is why may back is bad....i can spend 3 hours a day on the boards.

and I live alone so no one smells my stinky dmso breath!

[CRUNCH]

LOL! Then your free to DMSO away!! Just don't bring anyone home that your attracted to! Or put some DMSO on him. If you both stink, nobody will notice!

My wife will complain a little when I have it on, but not too bad. Sex is out of the question! Oh well, it's not like I can move arond much with my back like this anyway.

Yes, sitting is the freaking worst!! I get to move around a lot at work so I'm not sitting for too long.

After my first competition when I did this, I had a 3 1/2 hour plane ride home. Thought I was going to die! At least this was bofore 911. The flight attendant could tell something was wrong with me. After I told her, she let me stand near the plane door and brace myself against the walls to keep steady. That was a lifesaver!!

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I always stand in the back by the bathrooms whn I fly, I tell the stewardess before the flight takes off. I haven't flown much since 9/11. That would suck if they made you go sit down

If I was a guy thy would for think I was a perv!

Seriously look into that inversion tables

google these words: spine inversion

it will keep you in your game!

[Amazon Doll]

oh yeah......try the igf/gh...........can't hurt

[CRUNCH]

I've been doing the IGF for about three months now. Was doing GH also, but switched to GHRP-6 for the appetite stim.

I was hoping Grunt might have some answers or a different protocol for using the IGF with the disk injury. Haven't heard yet about that.

Somebody here at work just told me the local PT clinic has one of the inversion tables. I know all the PT's there pretty well, might see if they would let me come in and just try it out. Can't hurt to ask.

[stxnas]

...Sitting is one of the worst things to do for a compression injury and L5 is even the worst for sitting at the computer. that is why may back is bad....i can spend 3 hours a day on the boards...

I want to say mine is my L5/S1.

Anyway, you keep talking about the inversion table. You said yours hangs you from your hips. My mom is offering one to me that hangs you from your ankles. Will that make any negative differences (aka should I take her up on her offer?).

Thanks in advance,
STX

[Amazon Doll]

My mom is offering one to me that hangs you from your ankles. Will that make any negative differences (aka should I take her up on her offer?)

I can't say if one works better than the other, I just find ot more comfortable to hang from the hips, but if its available to you....go for it. Start out a 5mins & build up to 30 at a comfortable pace.

[stxnas]

Thanks for the input. I'll rep you when I can (I guess I was a rep whore last night and have none left to give out!)

[Amazon Doll]

Thanks for the input. I'll rep you when I can (I guess I was a rep whore last night and have none left to give out!)

damn! I wouldn't have been nice to you had I know you couldn't give me reps!

[CRUNCH]

LOL...I just gave you about 4000 points Amazon!! Where's my hugs for that!!!