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    long r3igf-1 questions i can't find definite answers for


    Thinking of trying igf-1. Had a few questions that I've looked for answers for but can't find anything in stone. Hopefully someone can help out. Not a cycle i will be planning on doing any time in the very near future. I'm just trying to get some answers so I know. And a friend of mine is about to start another cycle and I would like to have some info for him so he doesn't do anything wrong if he was before.
    1. I had a buddy who just injected the igf into his stomach as if it was insulin to a diabetic. Is this a good idea? Or should it be injected bilaterally into muscles worked? I'm mostly wondering if injecting into stomach fat even works. He said it did but maybe it was a placebo effect.
    2. I've basically read that 29g insulin needles are best to use. Can these be used for bilateral im injection into worked muscles effectively and somewhat painlessly?
    3. This is probably a terrible question. But I've never injected anything so I wanted to know. I realize needles shouldn't be reused and will never do that...however..is it ok to fill the needle and inject half on one side and half on the other side with the same needle as long as you clean the injection site with alcohol? Or should I use two separate needles? Whether this question even has relavence depends on the answer to question one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    Thinking of trying igf-1. Had a few questions that I've looked for answers for but can't find anything in stone. Hopefully someone can help out. Not a cycle i will be planning on doing any time in the very near future. I'm just trying to get some answers so I know. And a friend of mine is about to start another cycle and I would like to have some info for him so he doesn't do anything wrong if he was before.
    1. I had a buddy who just injected the igf into his stomach as if it was insulin to a diabetic. Is this a good idea? Or should it be injected bilaterally into muscles worked? I'm mostly wondering if injecting into stomach fat even works. He said it did but maybe it was a placebo effect.
    2. I've basically read that 29g insulin needles are best to use. Can these be used for bilateral im injection into worked muscles effectively and somewhat painlessly?
    3. This is probably a terrible question. But I've never injected anything so I wanted to know. I realize needles shouldn't be reused and will never do that...however..is it ok to fill the needle and inject half on one side and half on the other side with the same needle as long as you clean the injection site with alcohol? Or should I use two separate needles? Whether this question even has relavence depends on the answer to question one.
    1. Bilateral injects post work out are good. But not the only option

    2. use 29g your fine

    3. yes it's ok to use one.
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    Thanks man. I appreciate it. One other question that I haven't seen on here too much...but that I wanted to make sure about and put it somewhere else. When injecting in say..my bicep or wherever (IM)...I would stick the needle into the muscle...and then pull back the plunger a little bit and check for blood to make sure I didn't hit a vein correct? And if i didn't hit a vein...wouldn't there still be a little blood? Or does nothing come out? It must pull something into the needle right?
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    If you aspirate and blood fills the syringe then your in a vein. If not your good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis View Post
    If you aspirate and blood fills the syringe then your in a vein. If not your good to go.
    So if I'm not in a vein then nothing will come into the syringe? Or will there be some kind of liquid? Or what? I mean, pulling it back can't just pull air out of my body right? Thanks for the help.
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    If you pull back slightly and nothing comes in your good. The only thing that would show up is blood meaning your in a vein.
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    Thank you so much man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    So if I'm not in a vein then nothing will come into the syringe? Or will there be some kind of liquid? Or what? I mean, pulling it back can't just pull air out of my body right? Thanks for the help.
    I have never injected before, but from what I read...

    when you pull back on the needle and youre not in a vein then no blood will come out but no liquid either; it creates a vaccuum in the needle.

    the place i read that said that it will look like the needle filled with air but it really didnt, it just sort of expanded without filling with anything... so no need to worry that youre injecting air into your system

    like i said i have zero experience with injections but i read that and though i would share and try to explain the liquid question
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsw222 View Post
    I have never injected before, but from what I read...

    when you pull back on the needle and youre not in a vein then no blood will come out but no liquid either; it creates a vaccuum in the needle.

    the place i read that said that it will look like the needle filled with air but it really didnt, it just sort of expanded without filling with anything... so no need to worry that youre injecting air into your system

    like i said i have zero experience with injections but i read that and though i would share and try to explain the liquid question
    Thanks
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    when shooting igf you dont have to worry about hitting a vein if you shoot inside one youll be ok unlike with oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW View Post
    when shooting igf you dont have to worry about hitting a vein if you shoot inside one youll be ok unlike with oil.
    Interesting. I didn't know about that.
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    Another question I have is about calf injection sites. I plan on injecting into my calves on off days to try and get some extra growth in this region. I'll actually probably work only my calves on off days since normal calf training is done on legs and shoulders days when I will be injecting into the aforementioned body parts. From where I've looked I've seen people injecting into the lateral head of the calf. I would like to inject into the medial head as I am looking more for the diamond shape as visible from the front. Does anyone have any experience with this? Or is it just a bad idea.
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    This is a very useful thread, as I don't think enough is said about the actual method of injecting. More time is spend, as expected, on which product to take and doses, etc, however, I think how to administer the product is critical for all, especially beginners!
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    check out spotinjections.com I think it will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis View Post
    check out spotinjections.com I think it will help.
    Yeah I've seen that site before while I was looking around for information on injections. However, in both of the calf series photos it shows the lateral head being the spot for the injections. I suppose maybe it won't matter either way. But I'd like to know for sure if the medial head can safely be injected into without a ton of pain.
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    29g or 28g will both work. Make sure you get the 0.5" slin pins, though. Many of the slin pins are only 0.3", making it hard to hit the muscle unless you're superlean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW View Post
    when shooting igf you dont have to worry about hitting a vein if you shoot inside one youll be ok unlike with oil.
    true!!
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    So really then aspiration isn't important when injecting igf you're saying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSavage View Post
    29g or 28g will both work. Make sure you get the 0.5" slin pins, though. Many of the slin pins are only 0.3", making it hard to hit the muscle unless you're superlean.
    Will do.
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    Here's another one. I've read about a few people's cycles. I've seen one guy who was doing 60 mcg a day on workout days. He would inject 30 mcg in the morning into the muscle he was going to work and 30 after he worked out. What would be the benefit of this over just injecting post workout? And is it a better idea to inject only on workout days aside from just saving money? By the way, i was thinking of taking all of the information that is eventually given in this thread. In turn making a new one with just one long post giving the information and the information provider in it. Maybe it could be turned into a sticky? Mods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    So really then aspiration isn't important when injecting igf you're saying?
    It's a good habit so do it anyway (plus it's really easy)... but no, it isn't that important when injecting IGF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    Here's another one. I've read about a few people's cycles. I've seen one guy who was doing 60 mcg a day on workout days. He would inject 30 mcg in the morning into the muscle he was going to work and 30 after he worked out. What would be the benefit of this over just injecting post workout? And is it a better idea to inject only on workout days aside from just saving money? By the way, i was thinking of taking all of the information that is eventually given in this thread. In turn making a new one with just one long post giving the information and the information provider in it. Maybe it could be turned into a sticky? Mods?
    Post workout is the way to go....reason being your cells are primed at that point,meaning they will absorb more of the compound so less of it goes systematic.....post workout bi-lateral......don't go crazy with the doses......start small.
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    I wouldn't use it on non workout days either.....no point to..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Post workout is the way to go....reason being your cells are primed at that point,meaning they will absorb more of the compound so less of it goes systematic.....post workout bi-lateral......don't go crazy with the doses......start small.
    50 mcg/day a good start? Or is that too much? I've seen doses from 30 mcg to 120 mcg/day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    I wouldn't use it on non workout days either.....no point to..
    Really? Why not? Does that mean you could use it for two weeks and take a week off, then do two more weeks and get the same results as four straight weeks?
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    the best results are imo seen 3 times a week bi-lateral post workout,but it can be done about a million different way im sure....i would stick to 40mg bi-lateral 3x a week,or the days you train...always start with the smallest effective dose first...you have no clue how you will respond..this allows you to gauge things for future runs...be safe bro
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    Ok....when I start I'll do 40 mcg. I was thinking of doing it only 3 days a week. But I train mon-fri. I could do mon, wed, fri i guess. The most important spots I want to hit are delts and calves. Bis and chest are second. Will I get the benefits of igf for my bodyparts that I don't inject into?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    Ok....when I start I'll do 40 mcg. I was thinking of doing it only 3 days a week. But I train mon-fri. I could do mon, wed, fri i guess. The most important spots I want to hit are delts and calves. Bis and chest are second. Will I get the benefits of igf for my bodyparts that I don't inject into?
    yes you will.what doesn't get absorbed from the spot shot at will go systematic,meaning all your other cells will also get exposure too.You must keep in mind this is powerfull stuff..not to be played with...most will tell you not to even touch it untill you have 3 years of gear cycles under your belt..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    most will tell you not to even touch it untill you have 3 years of gear cycles under your belt..
    And others say to start out with igf before gear
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    Yeah I've heard from both sides myself. Unfortunately, my occupation will not allow me to take gear because of random drug testing. Done a few prohormone cycles in the past though. But anyways. So the hunger pains experienced with ifg. Are those around all the time? Including days when igf isn't injected? Or are you only hungry on the nights after igf is injected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by calidood View Post
    Yeah I've heard from both sides myself. Unfortunately, my occupation will not allow me to take gear because of random drug testing. Done a few prohormone cycles in the past though. But anyways. So the hunger pains experienced with ifg. Are those around all the time? Including days when igf isn't injected? Or are you only hungry on the nights after igf is injected?
    usually only after you inject...oh god does it suck..you feel tired,and hungry.Basicly it sucks.complex carbs are the only legit answer.Caffene,ephedra,can also help.I wouldn't shoot it if you have any big plans that day.You get use to it though..that is exactly why you want to ease into it.
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    great thread can someone explain what to mix.igot 1000mcg longr3igf-1,acetic acid solution,andNaCl salution.been searching ,can someone help.research comp didnt give instuctions.
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    Keep in mind that not everybody gets hypo from IGF-1 LR3. I feel virtually no different after I inject... I don't really get hungry or tired or anything. (Yes, the IGF is legit. I get it from the same source as Grunt and many others on this board.)
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    Ditto what TeamSavage said. I feel almost nothing. Now if I'm running it ED, about the 2nd or 3rd day hunger kicks in, but no lethargy at all.
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    What about storage? I read a post, I believe by Bobo that said if it's in AA you can just leave it in a drawer and let it sit for however long. Does that mean that, diluted in AA, I could just leave the igf lying around anywhere and just mix the BW with it and inject? That doesn't sound right to me. I suppose the reason I wonder is partially from my reading and partially the fact that the company I am looking into ships the igf in a box with a cold pack inside of it. So should I leave both the igf and bw in the fridge? Or does it matter? Or what? And should the AA and BW I inject be at room temp or cold from the fridge?
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    When I read the igf results thread it looked like most people injected everyday on cycle. Even on off days from training. Why is it suggested only three days a week? Just for safety's sake?
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    E3D is suggested so you can run it constantly. Run it ED, and after about 6 weeks, you need to take several weeks off.

    As to storage, it does not need refridgeration. I keep mine in a locker. Good for at least a year that way.
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    Oh ok. So if it's only ran like mon, wed, fri you could run it for months..but everyday is good for 6 weeks? It seems from reading that most people quit seeing results at about 4 weeks. But results would remain somewhat constant at 3 days a week? Just slower?
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    i realize that it's not all that important...but how much bw do you guys use per injection? Like for a 40 mcg injection what would you put in like 16 U of bw?
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    Bad info here


    Quote Originally Posted by BMW View Post
    when shooting igf you dont have to worry about hitting a vein if you shoot inside one youll be ok unlike with oil.
    If you inject acetic acid into your veins, would not be a wise move. ALWAYS ASPIRATE!!!!!

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