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Is T3 a must with HGH?

no.

it works fine without it, in fact i prefer not using the t3 as it makes me feel lethargic and flat. if you were using a high dose for a very extended period of time, then maybe you could add in some t4.

you need to specify dosage, length and other variables or no one will be able to give you a helpful response.
 
NattyNow said:
no.

it works fine without it, in fact i prefer not using the t3 as it makes me feel lethargic and flat. if you were using a high dose for a very extended period of time, then maybe you could add in some t4.

you need to specify dosage, length and other variables or no one will be able to give you a helpful response.

I just started almost 1wk ago 4ius PWO and only 250mg's cyp awk just came of Sus,TrenE and EQ cycle over 1 month ago, but continued with low dose of test. I just lowered my dose to 2ius and will work up from there, I've been feeling alittle dizzy and signs of hypo lately. I know what it's like to feel alittle lightheaded when working out hard, but today was the first time I actually felt like I was going hypo in the gym and I didnt do a shot yesturday because I was just not feeling right the last few days. I had to drink a carbo force to help me feel better and finish my workout. I never did gh before so maybe 4ius right off the bat is affecting me this way. I just did 2ius and had a protein shake with only 25 grams of carbs. I will be eating a meal in around 1hr from now. I woke up in the middle of sleeping and felt like I was going to passout and hands started shaking, signs of hypo so I ate acouple of breakfast bars and drank a gatorade and felt better and went back to sleep, so for some reason this gh is making my blood sugar out of wak. I'm going to pick up some R-ALA and maybe up my carbs some. I changed my diet around because I'm trying to lower my cholesterol and just started doing carbio for the first time in yrs.

Micro
 
i use glucophase xr with every meal. it helps alot with the blood sugar.

try this in regard to timing... it works for me:

preload your gh pin before going to bed and drink a decent amount of water. you will wake up to pee in the middle of the night (after your body has released its own gh). shoot your gh then and go back to sleep (don't eat anything). this insures you are taking the gh on a completely empty stomach and are going to have an empty stomach for a few hours. since you are not taking in carbs near the shot your blood sugar levels won't go wacky. when you finally get up you will have alot of energy.
 
you are only using gh, right? of course you would never use insulin at a time like that.

gh itself will not make you hypo. it will start to decrease your insulin sensitivity though.
 
micro said:
I just started almost 1wk ago 4ius PWO and only 250mg's cyp awk just came of Sus,TrenE and EQ cycle over 1 month ago, but continued with low dose of test. I just lowered my dose to 2ius and will work up from there, I've been feeling alittle dizzy and signs of hypo lately. I know what it's like to feel alittle lightheaded when working out hard, but today was the first time I actually felt like I was going hypo in the gym and I didnt do a shot yesturday because I was just not feeling right the last few days. I had to drink a carbo force to help me feel better and finish my workout. I never did gh before so maybe 4ius right off the bat is affecting me this way. I just did 2ius and had a protein shake with only 25 grams of carbs. I will be eating a meal in around 1hr from now. I woke up in the middle of sleeping and felt like I was going to passout and hands started shaking, signs of hypo so I ate acouple of breakfast bars and drank a gatorade and felt better and went back to sleep, so for some reason this gh is making my blood sugar out of wak. I'm going to pick up some R-ALA and maybe up my carbs some. I changed my diet around because I'm trying to lower my cholesterol and just started doing carbio for the first time in yrs.

Micro

At 2ius a day I do not notice hypo or any other sides. At 3-4ius ED, I get hypo and bad tendonitis. They say for rejuvenation 1.5 to 2ius ED is an amount that most can handle without sides. 2ius a day is not a lot compared to what some take, but I think at some point you will have to add slin if your dose gets up there. I am not interested in slin so I keep my dose low. Also keeping your blood sugar up by eating frequently with carbs should keep the hypo at bay.
 
At 2ius a day I do not notice hypo or any other sides. At 3-4ius ED, I get hypo and bad tendonitis. They say for rejuvenation 1.5 to 2ius ED is an amount that most can handle without sides. 2ius a day is not a lot compared to what some take, but I think at some point you will have to add slin if your dose gets up there. I am not interested in slin so I keep my dose low. Also keeping your blood sugar up by eating frequently with carbs should keep the hypo at bay.

I dropped down to 2ius and will work up from there, I've was getting really bad sinus like pressure and since I've dropped to 2ius it's been ok.

At 2iu's the hgh drops my BG down around 20/25 points, so I've been keeping my carbs up around my injection time and doing my injections PWO. Preworkout shots just screw up my workouts to much, even after eating my breakfast. And I really don't want to rely on sipping carbs throughout my whole workout even though that's not so bad I would rather just do them PWO.

I would like to do IGF again with my HGH but since I do my HGH PWO and I would also do my IGF PWO, I would just be to afraid of my blood sugar dropping out of my control.

Micro
 
dosing more than 2ius at a time is a waste. your liver can only handle so much gh at one time that is one of the reasons people use t4 with gh. One way to up the dosage and what i would recommend for any dosage over 2ius a day is do 2 ius in the morning and then 2 ius pwo if you are sticking with 4 a day. If you are doing one of the 3 times a week high dosage procticols doing 2ius every 3 hrs is the way to go for max effectivness.
 
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