About how long does it take for new igf muscle cells to mature?

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    About how long does it take for new igf muscle cells to mature?


    About how long does it take for new igf muscle cells to mature?

    i hear guys say that after you get done with your igf cycle you keep gaining strength and size for a while afterwards...

    I was just wondering if anyone knows about how long it takes for this effect to happen, wheather it be immediately after your cycle or a few months/yrs down the road.

    and, new muscle cells can still be created if you were to use IGF during a cut phase right?

    just wanted to clear some things up for me. Thanks a bunch bro's.

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    Months...but not all new cells will live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IFIWAS
    Months...but not all new cells will live.
    is there a way to help prevent the new cells from dying?

    like drinking beer? is that gonna kill new cells that aren't matured yet?

    i'm just wondering the best way to preserve the life of my new cells....

    thanks bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakboy View Post
    is there a way to help prevent the new cells from dying?

    like drinking beer? is that gonna kill new cells that aren't matured yet?

    i'm just wondering the best way to preserve the life of my new cells....

    thanks bro
    I know this is an old thread, but I feel the questions in here are valid enough for me to bump it, partially why I made an account here.

    Particularly the question I quoted.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to shoot out theories or facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weltweite View Post
    I know this is an old thread, but I feel the questions in here are valid enough for me to bump it, partially why I made an account here.

    Particularly the question I quoted.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to shoot out theories or facts.
    ya dude i totally agree. haha i'm the one who asked em
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    Quote Originally Posted by weltweite View Post
    I know this is an old thread, but I feel the questions in here are valid enough for me to bump it, partially why I made an account here.

    Particularly the question I quoted.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to shoot out theories or facts.
    I am guessing this is why we see synergy with igf/juice because your new cells will begin maturing faster and more should survive - does that make any sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I am guessing this is why we see synergy with igf/juice because your new cells will begin maturing faster and more should survive - does that make any sense?
    yep!
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    what if you were to stack the igf-1 with halovar could that have cell maturing traits?? cause i plan on running halovar and thought i would use the igf1 to hopfully get fuller more ripped gains i was gonna use the igf for fat loss purposes
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    everyone talks about the fat loss effects of igf-lr3 but i've used it pry about 6 times now, (on cycle, off cycle bridge, post cycle, ....) and i've ranged in doses from 40mcg-100mcg's. don't get me wrong when i say this, as it is just my opinion, but i look more pumped and full with more carbs i take in w my diet.... i used igf to cut one time, and i dunno if the fact that i was on clen, and clen blunts insulin sensitivity or what, but i barely lost any fat.... my diet was on, cardio, training, all on... so my opinion, i say if your gonna use igf, pound carbs and get full muscles on it, use frag for a cut
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    Quote Originally Posted by king1033 View Post
    what if you were to stack the igf-1 with halovar could that have cell maturing traits?? cause i plan on running halovar and thought i would use the igf1 to hopfully get fuller more ripped gains i was gonna use the igf for fat loss purposes
    WTF is Halovar?

    Holy crap I seriously need a steroid translator PDA to understand what all these clones are.

    Is anyone slinging Phera-Plex by any other name anymore? **** that stuff is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat View Post
    WTF is Halovar?

    Holy crap I seriously need a steroid translator PDA to understand what all these clones are.

    Is anyone slinging Phera-Plex by any other name anymore? **** that stuff is good.
    I think Phera-Bol is the clone. 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat View Post
    WTF is Halovar?

    Holy crap I seriously need a steroid translator PDA to understand what all these clones are.

    Is anyone slinging Phera-Plex by any other name anymore? **** that stuff is good.
    it's a halodrol-50 clone..
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakboy View Post
    everyone talks about the fat loss effects of igf-lr3 but i've used it pry about 6 times now, (on cycle, off cycle bridge, post cycle, ....) and i've ranged in doses from 40mcg-100mcg's. don't get me wrong when i say this, as it is just my opinion, but i look more pumped and full with more carbs i take in w my diet.... i used igf to cut one time, and i dunno if the fact that i was on clen, and clen blunts insulin sensitivity or what, but i barely lost any fat.... my diet was on, cardio, training, all on... so my opinion, i say if your gonna use igf, pound carbs and get full muscles on it, use frag for a cut
    good post freak...igf should be used to create new cells...NOT FOR FUKCIN FATLOSS!!!....that should not be why your using this peptide...get a dam fat burner for 1/6 of the price...
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    i've been on GH for 3 months and IGF for 3 1/2 weeks with good results ...however i was wondering about Bad Ass Mass or Pro-Anabol to speed up cell maturation. I do not want to take heavy anabolic steroids to do so and was wondering which would be the best supplement for cell maturing, i was reading up and it looks to be BAM for the best choice but i wanted your opinions on the matter or if any1 has experience using PA or BAM? and what the results were. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by dra05ke View Post
    i've been on GH for 3 months and IGF for 3 1/2 weeks with good results ...however i was wondering about Bad Ass Mass or Pro-Anabol to speed up cell maturation. I do not want to take heavy anabolic steroids to do so and was wondering which would be the best supplement for cell maturing, i was reading up and it looks to be BAM for the best choice but i wanted your opinions on the matter or if any1 has experience using PA or BAM? and what the results were. thanks
    I'd go with BAM if you're looking for something that doesn't shut you down to the point where you need a post cycle therapy.


    One thing you guys might look into is getting some good anti-oxidants. ALA, grapeseed extract, green tea, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, resveratrol, and some NAC are all really potent anti-oxidants. This would greatly assist against auto-oxidative damage.
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    just curious would anyone happen to know about how long it would take for me to see some/moderate cell maturation with BAM given my circumstances (GH = 3months, IGF = 3 1/2) so far?
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    i've been readin up more on BAM and others...after reading reviews it looks like Jungle Warfare is a good choice for cell maturation. (BAM=alot of bad reviews) Does anyone know of any better supplement products out there to get the job done at a decent rate?


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    Running a cycle immediately after a cycle of igf-1 will provide gains substantially greater than a cycle run without prior igf-1 use.

    I can only hypothesize based on experience, but by running a cycle of igf-1 and then cycling an androgen to rapidly mature the new myofibers.....it would seem the likelihood of those myofibers degrading would be significantly lower. (common sense i suppose).

    I noticed new waves of growth on typical cycles up to a year after my last igf-1 cycle (its been over a year since i last ran it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    Running a cycle immediately after a cycle of igf-1 will provide gains substantially greater than a cycle run without prior igf-1 use.

    I can only hypothesize based on experience, but by running a cycle of igf-1 and then cycling an androgen to rapidly mature the new myofibers.....it would seem the likelihood of those myofibers degrading would be significantly lower. (common sense i suppose).

    I noticed new waves of growth on typical cycles up to a year after my last igf-1 cycle (its been over a year since i last ran it).
    thats what i did ..i did 3 weeks of igf prior to the start of this cycle.....with all my preloading and stuff(milk thistle,ryr,co-q,r-ala..etc)
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    do you gain rapid dramatic results in size and strength by the cells maturing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dra05ke View Post
    do you gain rapid dramatic results in size and strength by the cells maturing?
    no..
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    Quote Originally Posted by dra05ke View Post
    do you gain rapid dramatic results in size and strength by the cells maturing?
    dramatic strength as in tren/m1t/superdrol androgen mediated strength? No

    But obviously with more muscle tissue the strength will eventually come as well. To me the mass gain seemed more accelerated, the strength adjusted accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    dramatic strength as in tren/m1t/superdrol androgen mediated strength? No

    But obviously with more muscle tissue the strength will eventually come as well. To me the mass gain seemed more accelerated, the strength adjusted accordingly.
    it's a common misconception that strength is directly proportional to muscle mass. Although muscle mass is used, it is limited by how many fibers your brain can utilize at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    it's a common misconception that strength is directly proportional to muscle mass. Although muscle mass is used, it is limited by how many fibers your brain can utilize at once.
    um....i have a big brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    um....i have a big brain?
    I was just trying to say that strength is limited by neuromuscular efficiency, without using as many big words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I was just trying to say that strength is limited by neuromuscular efficiency, without using as many big words.
    CNS training along with the right fast/slow twist muscle fiber ratio plays a big role no doubt....but in this case most of us are going to be able to incorporate the new fibers fairly quickly.

    the mass gains are there immediately, the strength gains are a bit more slow to follow.
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    jomi is really a woman..........there i said it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    jomi is really a woman..........there i said it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    jomi is really a woman..........there i said it!

    well... jomi is really a woman, and tripdog is really a banana... and we ALL know what women do with bananas.... so.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf View Post
    well... jomi is really a woman, and tripdog is really a banana... and we ALL know what women do with bananas.... so.......
    This can only mean that Tripdog is headed straight for Jomi's vagina...
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_big_enuf View Post
    well... jomi is really a woman, and tripdog is really a banana... and we ALL know what women do with bananas.... so.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
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    ....the lube hahaha.........the heated kind or strawberry flavored??
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