PEG MGF vs MGF

TheGame46

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Here it is plain and simple for you. Without any complex peptide understanding required other than the fact that PEGylation increases the stability, and lifetime of the peptide.

MGF is responsible for increasing muscle stem cell count through a process called proliferation.

As you see the effect going left to right here is exponential. The more stem cells you have the more that can be stimulated and replicated. In order to singal this replication there has to be sufficient saturation of cell receptors. Because attachment to a receptor is by simple probability, the more peptide and the more time the more probable a cell will reach saturation and begin to replicate.

IF regular MGF has a shorter life span, it has a significantly smaller chance at saturating cells. It is not stable in the blood so its only real chance to bind is right at injection. If you calculate probability of binding via (time x concentration) and then PEG last appx 300 times longer, the probability of MGF having a significant effect is about 300 times at the same dosage. In other words you would need 300 times the regular MGF to bind to as many receptors as the PEGylated version. And even at that case the loss of peptide to the blood so fast would still limit the effects of MGF.

Now you must also consider the cumulative effects of having longer term MGF action. AS you saw in the image, the number of receptors will increase, this increase the probability further for the PEG version so now every time you undergo muscle stem cell replication within the 4-8 days the PEG version is active you increase the probability proportional to the increase in cell number.

So without knowing anything more than multiplication and the law of probability one can see that PEG MGF is significantly more effective.
 

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nice stuff. but is it proved that MGF is responsible for increasing muscle cell?
 
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Nice basic info Bro! Is the sequence: PEG-Suc-Tyr-Gln-Pro-Pro-Ser-Thr-Asn-Lys-Asn-Thr-Lys-Ser-Gln-d-Arg-d-Arg-Lys-Gly-Ser-Thr-Phe-Glu-Glu-His-Lys-NH2:crackhead:
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is the sequence:pEG-Suc-Tyr-Gln-Pro-Pro-Ser-Thr-Asn-Lys-Asn-Thr-Lys-Ser-Gln-d-Arg-d-Arg-Lys-Gly-Ser-Thr-Phe-Glu-Glu-d-Arg-Lys-NH2
I find the second sequence to be the best if pregenylate or not.:bandit:
 
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Still the same info. The problem occurred in Dr. Goldspink's older studies. When he first began research on MGF he hypothesized that it was responsible for not only proliferation (brining in of myoblasts) but also for differentiation (activation of these myoblasts). This, however, proved to not be true in newer studies and actually it was wrong to a very large degree as it was found that not only did MGF not differentiate myoblasts but it actually inhibited myoblasts from differentiating (this is his newest hypothesis). They now say that IGF-1Ea is responsible for the differentiation, which is good for all the LR3 IGF-1 users out there. MGF still has its place as something that has a lot of potential, especially with the longer lasting PEGylated version coming out, but it will take much longer to figure out how to use it synergistically with LR3 IGF-1 since it does inhibit differentiation.

We basically have to determine how we can dose this stuff to where we get a large influx of myoblasts without inhibiting differentiation. I also still believe LR3 IGF-1 and MGF stacked together are the best way to go. With the large amount of IGF-1 we are getting, we need the extra myoblasts and with all the myoblasts being proliferated by the MGF, you are going to want the added anabolism.
What are your thoughts on this? Should Peg MGF be used on it's own followed by a cycle of IGF? Or should they be used together?
 

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Personally I have had the best luck when I Use MGF 2x Weekly (Mon and Thurs) and Igf1 on Wed and Thursday But that might just be me.
 

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If MGF has that effect on muscle, would it have the same effect on healing a tendon post surgery?
Been trying to decide which hgh would be best to help aid in recovery of a torn tendon post surgery. Any thoughts?

Fish
 

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So why does respected expert Anthony Roberts say real world results - MGF blows away Peg MGF?
No,Anthony Roberts is a well known impostor,most people know this allready!Never trust him,just google enough and you know why.
 
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Anthony Roberts ia a joke. What a silly guy, but his situation proves that if you have any name made for yourself, the masses will listen, and take your word as gospel. Too many sheep still eat every word out of his hand. (shakes head)

MGF and PEG_MGF both have their place in the world of unknowns. The biggest 'testers' have found a protocol of both at different times to be the most beneficial, but anybody that says they know the best way is full of $hit. Exogeneously introduced mgf, in any form, is completely unpredictable at best, but not because people have not tried. I(t is generally considered as having positive results, but the why is generally unknown.

Whoever says that they have all the answers should be given some Bruce Lee style education, quick and lethal, LOL
 

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Awesome, thanks bro! Used this stuff before, plan on doing a run again!
 

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good points. Interesting, someone who is well respected, DatBTrue, seems to state that MGF (technically) is ineffective as well.
 

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