1st igf run
- 07-14-2006, 08:30 PM
1st igf run
running igf-1 for the 1st time in my current post cycle therapy. Anyways i was just wondering if this stuff is supposed to sting so bad going in? Really caught me off gaurd the 1st time. Also i'm already starting to hate these stupid slin pins. By the time I pull the sodium Chl and the igf the pin is so dull i have to really force it in & it f'n hurts...
sorry just had to whine a bit to someone and my normal friends sure as hell wouldn't understand
anyways if anyone has any tips on how to make this a bit more pleasant i'm all ears
- 07-14-2006, 08:33 PM
Use more than one pin .one to pull one to inject. if you keep poking dull pins in ya then you're going to get inflammed tissue and if you're not rotating sites enough you can cause site necrosis of the fatty tissue. Although i'll have to admit it's rare but I wouldn't want to risk tissue injury.
- 07-14-2006, 08:42 PM
07-14-2006, 08:45 PM
insulin pin so probably 30ga
07-14-2006, 09:06 PM
i'm using 29g 1/2 cc slin pins. They have fixed needles so i cant pull & then switch needles like i would with a normal syringe.
Jayhawk when you say pull with one then switch do you mean pull with one slin pin then shoot the mixture into an amp for example then pull it with a new slin pin to shoot?
07-15-2006, 01:18 AM
he means extract whatever amount you are using from the vial into the syringe, then switch out the needles so you have a brand new sharp one to use for injection.Originally Posted by eRICH
07-15-2006, 08:50 AM
Im not sure why your having problems with the needles bro. Ive used the same ones with IGF and MGF. With the MGF i've actually used the same needle to pin 4 different spots with no problems whatsoever going in.
07-15-2006, 08:56 AM
Switch to a higher quality of slin pins bro. I use the BD and they are just slightly less sharp at the fourth pinning (1, IGF vial - 2, BW vial - 3, left - 4, right)...
07-15-2006, 12:17 PM
slin pins don't have removable needles.Originally Posted by Irish Cannon
I guess it's not that bad i'll stop being a p*ss. Just doesn't slide in as easy as a nice new pin.
07-15-2006, 12:32 PM
If you kinda push your sking so its a little tighter, it makes the needle go in a lil easier.Originally Posted by eRICH
07-15-2006, 01:29 PM
Just jab yourself and be done with it. Serioiusly fella's were dealing with 1/2" pin. You guys should all be used to dealing with 1/2"
07-15-2006, 01:33 PM
Of course...........10 1/2"Originally Posted by jminis
07-17-2006, 06:30 PM
Another quick question: Once I draw the shot igf+water, how long does it stay good? Basically i'm wondering if I can preload the shot and bring it with me to the gym to shoot immediately post workout? I guess I'm asking what the consensus is on the life span of the igf once dilluted with Sod Chl for injection?
07-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Yeah, thats fine to do it that way. The BW will degrade it quickly, but not that quickly. Just dont go and have a 7 hour weight session.
07-19-2006, 02:13 PM
Word of advice if you're having trouble pinning bro. Stretch the skin with 1 hand before you pin. If you search there's a thread about intramuscular pinning for nurses. It says to pull the skin apart with your index finger & thumb so that the skin is stretched & easier to penetrate. Believe me, this makes it a hell of a lot easier to stick than if the skin is just all bunched. Also, make sure to go in at an angle & make sure the point of the pin is under, not on top. Gluck bro.
07-30-2006, 10:07 PM
07-31-2006, 11:58 PM
sure. Been using 40mcg/ed post workout or on off days in the morning. So far the igf along with torimifene have made this the BEST pct i've ever had.I have def noticed i'm leaning out & also vascularity has improved. It also seems to have increased my appetite. I'm always hungry. So far I really like this stuff & i'm looking forward to maturing my new muscle cells.
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