igf-1 and gyno

stumbras

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ok thats the story i did couple sd cycles, last one was about two months ago
and i did 20 day 50 mcg igf cycle 2 weeks ago

So after my igf cycle i started to noticed gyno signs( sensitive, erect nipples), nothing to big but i can notice visual change of my chest around nipples
Is it possible that igf induced my gyno
now i am taking letro 2.5 mg ed, after 3 days no efect
should i add something( i have tolerifene on hand)and then letro gona kick in
 
I don't beleive if it is known whether IGF-1 will increase gyno tissue. I would have to look into it. I know for sure, however, IGF-1 will NOT bind to adipocytes, so it won't add to the fat around the area. IGF-1 does cause some water retention but if you have been off it for that long it shouldn't be a problem right now. Some people have talked about SD causing some of their gyno and others say it can't be the SD, who knows, I can never tell in myself because I have always taken SD with a test. derivative and most of it probably came from that.
 
I ALL likelyhood, IGF did NOT cause you gyno.

IF,... IF I had to make a strech to make a case for the possibility, I would say IGF might: supress your natty GH output,.. thus your LH levels are effected by the GH pulses. Supressing one (GH) could lower test/est levels, maybe even causing the over production of estrogen to try and compensate...
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IGF seems to quicken PCT (for me). So, if your tring your hardest to increase LH production, while in PCT or shortly after SD, you increase estrogen and may still have elevated progesterone levels.
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Check out the threds on Gyno after SD. (keep in mind that the case may SEEM stronger for this due to the popularity of SD amongst those who havent seen a tit yet,.. let alone know if there growing their own :jaw:
 
" IGF-1 is known to have lead to gyno in some cases involving the elderly.13,14 This is presumably because of its ability to co-activate estrogen receptors in breast tissue. "
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i just have read this article
 
Well, That link you posted didnt exactly take me to the artical,.. but a really nice informational site though :woohoo:
 
Well, I must say that the only time I had gyno problems was when I was on cycle and doing IGF-1 also. I actually have some gyno that never left, from that cycle. I wonder if, being on cycle and having the increased estro as well, along with igf, caused a pronounced gyno response. I definitely didn't have it before and have not had problems since, even though i still have some gyno left over from then. I don't even get nipple soreness when I do a cycle. Take it for what you will.
 
Well, let me clarify...

I was more or less tring to say that I (personally) would be questioning the SD before I'd consider the IGF.
Seeing as though there seems to be some unexplained post cycle gyno phenomonon going on.

And just because it didnt give you problems before, or since, that it didnt this time. It depends on the state of your body at the time of use., ..
 
as far as i know
gyno forms with the combination of GH, IGF-1 and high levels of estrogen


so i am gona try to use extra antiestrogen products when i am gona use igf during my test cycle
 
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