Mechano Growth Factor (MGF) and Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) Information Link
01-09-2007 07:52 PM
is there any interest in the MD magazine article this month on MGF? If so I will scan and post. Don't want to bother if no one cares though.
01-09-2007 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by Goat
I allready read it. It was a good read, but nothing we here at AM didnt allready know for months.
01-10-2007 12:04 AM
Yeah, I'd love to see it.
Originally Posted by Goat
02-05-2007 04:26 PM
03-14-2007 06:02 PM
Can I pegylate MGF myself ? How can I ?
03-14-2007 09:26 PM
Put it through a pegylator capacitor.
Originally Posted by Geebee
03-16-2007 05:37 PM
I suppose it's a joke !!!
Originally Posted by Goat
When I was a child, my father was telling me about sausage-trees.
04-09-2007 11:44 AM
...What exactly does that mean?
These results are based on actual transplantation of the DNA coding for the peptides. This is a permanent effect and much more potent than IM injections of the peptide itself. You will not see a 20% increase in muscle mass through IM injections as claimed above.
04-09-2007 04:28 PM
donīt whre you got that from, but it means that the dna code for the peptide was introduced into the cell-dna, so that itīs transscyrpted by the mRNS and thus expressed
Originally Posted by prodigy06
by the cells selves, yielding in a more or less permanent MGF production.
There was a study on IGF transfection in cartilage with artificially induced damage to show, that its usability in regenreation of damaged cartilage.
BTW what is a good dose for MGF -250mcg? I used to see good results with 60mcg LR3 IGF-1, if thatīd be evne closely comparable.
04-09-2007 04:39 PM
I got the quote from the very bottom of the post at the start of this thread. In the post they say "nevertheless, it has been shown that MGF is a potent inducer of muscle hypertrophy in experiments in which the cDNA of MGF was inserted into a plasmid vector and introduced by intramuscular injection. This resulted in a 20 % increase in the weight of the injected muscle within 2 weeks" then at the bottom it says "These results are based on actual transplantation of the DNA coding for the peptides. This is a permanent effect and much more potent than IM injections of the peptide itself. You will not see a 20% increase in muscle mass through IM injections as claimed above."
Originally Posted by Fastflight
I'm confused on that
04-09-2007 04:46 PM
It means, that if you donīt insert the MGF gene wth a plasmidvector into your muscle cells, you wonīt get the results of 20% additional muslce weight, if you just inject it, itīd be a few minutes peak, compared to 24h .... thatīs why PEGlation and thatīs why IGF-1 is used either in conjunction with IGFBP-3 or as the Long R version.
IGF-1 has to be infused over several hours to be effective or at very high doses several times a day, i.e. some mgīs 3-4x daily, if not done as above mentioned.
Iīve read that GH increases mainly all of those factors, so maybe a high dose gh is best along wit Long R 3, although somehow it loses its potency in me, I think (def. not the stuff I had the 1. time I used it).
Never tried the PEG MGF and definately felt something of either the 4iu blue tops or the normal MGF (IV injection) or the combination, ... will try MGF again tonight.
10-01-2007 03:54 PM
Would mgf be effective for a cyclist. Ive done several cycles of IGF-1lr3 and aas. The lr3 still worries me a bit. I also do a great deal leg breaking weight workouts 2 days a week off cycle EOD on cycle aas.
10-02-2007 03:32 PM
Im looking into MGF during final part of my current pct. I cycle everyday and lift heavily throughout the week. Would it be better to inject after my cardio and before the weights. How long should i wait to workout after i inject.
10-02-2007 05:21 PM
there is a mgf handbook that i downloaded that would be very helpful to you and answer your questions. let me find it and I will try and direct you to it.
10-02-2007 06:26 PM
Thanks a lot, i just ordered some mgf today.
10-03-2007 10:15 AM
Ok i know tis his an old thread but what about Peg mgf? I am planning on running it alone during pct. Sense im not injecting lr3 should i inject 24hrs before or pwo?
10-15-2007 10:25 PM
How much bac water should be added to a 2mg vial of peg mgf powder?
11-28-2007 08:04 PM
On my grind
Ive got the same question, i have 2 mgs of PMGF and have .9% of NaCl. NOw i have NO idea how much NaCl i need to put into the pgmf vial or how many tics on the slin pin i need to go to get 300mcgs a week of it. It really has me quite confused.
Originally Posted by preston25
02-02-2008 11:57 AM
what is the best way to run pegmgf/igf now a day's. there is so many different thoughts.
i was thinking this way from what ive been reading from THE GAMES info.
sunday - off day, 100mcg of pegmgf in each bicep.
monday- workout bi/tri /PWO 20mcg of igf in each bi.
tuesday-workout shoulders/pwo20mcg igf in each delt
wed- off day, 100mcg pegmgf in each chest muscle.
thur- workout chest/pwo20mcg igf in each pec.
fri- workout back/pwo 25mcg igf in each lat
sun- off day, 100mcg pegmgf in each delt
mon- workout shoulders/pwo 20mcg igf in each delt.
but then a lot of people say eod with igf, so maybe this way.
sunday-off day,100mcg pegmgf in each bicep
monday- workout legs
tuesday-workout bi/tri /pwo igf 20mcg in each bi
wed-off day,100mcg pegmgf in each chest muscle
thurs-workout chest/pwo igf 20mcg in each chest
friday- workout shoulders
sat- workout back/pwo igf 25mcg in each lat
sunday- off day, pegmgf 100mcg
02-04-2008 05:06 PM
Is it best do after a work out or before bed time? I was thinking if one was to do it 3 times a week that would be good or low dose 5 times a week. Stomach would work right?
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