anti myostatin polycolonal?
- 02-06-2006, 05:38 AM
- 02-06-2006, 05:43 AM
BTW, there are a few different myostatin inhibiting drugs in existance now. "ACVR2B", "Myo-29" as well as the polyclonal antibody. Do a search for any of them and a whole bunch of articles pop up.
02-06-2006, 10:08 AM
all the inhibiters I have seen have had an 8 in the name (which I guess means nothing) - From what I remember (and god knows I can be confusing growth facotor inhibiters) but the first thing is you would have to guess what to reconstitute with (shouldnt be hard),. .and it IS expensive,.. but only because of the fact that the reconstitution only last for a few days (maybe 7). But if you've done that many times before things shouldnt be a problem.
Its an interesting topic though.
On the other side (and this was just an option I have been exploring - I keep busy- it finding the "active" ingreadient in those available mystatin blockers (in raw form though- maybe make a inj. solution.)
02-06-2006, 11:45 AM
02-06-2006, 11:55 AM
The latest issue (March 2006) of Muscular Development contains a 4 page article entitled "Gene Doping is a Reality -- Scientists Develop Gene-Blocking Super Drug". "The new technique-- injection of activin type IIB receptor (ACVR2B) -- involves directly suppressing myostatin production without altering the myostatin gene itself.
"Injecting ACVR2B to boost muscle size is preferable because the changes in muscle mass will be temporary and can be regulated by altering dosage. The older method of altering the genes would make the changes permanent and have potentially catastrophic consequences."
The article also talks about the child with the mutation in the gene that produces myostatin, causing him to have lower levels of the muscle-suppressing chemical than normal. The child has the "frog-legs" which are typical in champion bodybuilders or powerlifters. His muscles appear to be twice the size of other kids his age.
Expect this kid to win a decade of Mr Olympia's from 2030 on.
02-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by xtraflossy
The reason alot of myostatin drugs use the number 8 in the name is because mystatin is also known as "Growth Differentiation Factor 8" or GDF-8 for short.... thats all. BTW, if you come up with a working inj. solution, be sure to let me know your formula!
02-06-2006, 05:10 PM
Right- Iknow its GF-8, hince many research chems will have it in a MyoD catagory, or subcatagory. But, its not always written in plain english, or can be guessed.
Thought It would be bennificial for others (if there looking into this).
When I said the 8 might mean nothing, its because sometimes it is not listed, or they call it what they want. It can be like picking a particular supp ending in "bol", in a list of "bols" supps.
Also, most of the GF's are also broken into subcatagories as well. It really depends on the company suppling it for research.
02-07-2006, 03:31 AM
Come on BLACK747.... let us in on your results...... some of us have been waiting for like a year to hear from someone who has experienced that stuff. .... Pretty Please?
02-07-2006, 10:46 AM
YO BUDDY.. POST UR RESULTS BRO!
Im dyin to hear bout em, might even give the polycolonal a try myself...
02-07-2006, 02:15 PM
02-07-2006, 02:36 PM
02-08-2006, 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by BLACK747
YEah- so I now can PM (feel like I just joined a club )
and he can't receive PMs for one reason or another!!
I dont mind the donation, but ,.....DAMN! If he wasnt bull****tn about this, I feel a bit cheated out of the info!
02-08-2006, 07:15 PM
02-11-2006, 06:43 PM
DAAAAAAANG.. still no response from that dude.. looks like he was bull****ting all along, sigh.
I knew it was too good to be true
02-11-2006, 06:47 PM
02-14-2006, 03:30 PM
Sorry to get a little off topic here,.. but as long as were talking about alterations in humans that we dont know that would work...
I was thinking I might want to start a thred on some possible new anabolics possibilities that I come accross. I have a few ideas,.. there all on the genetic level. (things I became interested in when sidetracked from other things
I'd like to have a place I can update to, as I make new findings. Im not sure how to go about this as I would like it to be indexed somehow (maybe link to a Word doc, containing bookmarks,.. not sure yet).
If this is something anyone might be interested in -(the rambeling of some dude on genetic like alteration that may or may not work but are worth exploring IMO)- PM me or something,... specially if you have any good format ideas.
Last edited by xtraflossy; 02-15-2006 at 09:44 AM.
02-21-2006, 07:25 PM
This sounds like a very interesting topic. Maybe you should take your ideas to a few companies (like IBE or MR). Just my .02Originally Posted by xtraflossy
02-24-2006, 04:42 PM
Well, Im actually looking for something VERY specific,.. but I find all these other possibilities in the process. Chances are, it would take a more educated person then I tell the real possibilities,.. and just due to the number of them,.. Id rather not piss anyone off with the incessant emails.
But,.. IF/when I find what Im looking for, I will let someone know,.. hopefully they'll be able to produce cheaper then I can get. Custome compounds/proteins and such can cost a pretty penny,..
02-24-2006, 05:33 PM
True. I can see where you're coming from there. Still I hope you find what you're looking for.Originally Posted by xtraflossy
02-24-2006, 06:06 PM
Two people posted comments on animal boards (TLR forum). One had basically no result, another one liked it.
I think this stuff needs some time so we can gather knowledge of which compounds to use, which protocols, etc.
There are different myostatin blockers around and some act different then others...
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