Prami

[Cgkone]

Is there truth to prami increasing hgh?

 

[Dunamis1]

Yes there is a lot of research showing that prami increases gh in a dose dependent manner. The biggest surge being 2hours after you dose. I would post a link but the site won't let me because I'm a newbie.

Google - neuroendocrine side effects of pramipexole

 

[Cgkone]

Intersting how people chase gh with peptides but very little run prami exclusively for gh

 

[Dunamis1]

I think it's because most see prami as just a means to control prolactin which it does. But with the GH effects as well as libido effects prami is an extremely versatile drug.

 

[hairygrandpa]

What I think of Prami:

The sides are unbearable for me, even at very low dose. Lucky ones who can use it.

 

[Dunamis1]

What type of sides do you get? Crazy I feel great on prami

 

[Woody]

Most people hate Prami because of the sides. Nausea, sweats, light headed, the works.

 

[hairygrandpa]

What type is sides do you get? I feel great on prami.

Never felt worse in my life, like dying. Wanted the synergy between Prami and MK but got sick instead.
Nausea, cold sweats, dizzy, insomnia, racing thoughts, weakness.
Will not touch it again.
A friend of mine bought all my stack, he gets euphoric on that stuff.

 

[Cgkone]

Same thing happen to me the first time half a milliliter and I was f***** up for a full day. So obviously that was too much so I did an eighth of a milliliter for about a week. Then it went quarter of a milliliter which for the first time I experienced pornstar status. Raging erection backed by raging libido. CC Allis only helps with an erection doesn't put you in the mood now if I take a quarter of a milliliter I want to have sex at least three times that day. And not just about me I enjoyed kissing and hugging and touching a lot more they even enhance is foreplay

 

[Cgkone]

I have absolutely zero sides now.
So now I'm researching prami more more because it seems too good to be true if I'm also increasing my my GH and f****** like a teenager my goodness

 

[MindMuscleRep]

aside from being able to cum a full snowman, made me feel like complete dog crap

 

[Dunamis1]

I too have been thinking of stacking prami with MK for GH reasons. MK is so expensive though.

 

[MindMuscleRep]

I too have been thinking of stacking prami with MK for GH reasons. MK is so expensive though.

in the grand scheme of things its not too bad when you catch it on sale. earlier last year a little birdy had it a buy 10 and get it substantially reduced.

 

[hairygrandpa]

Same thing happen to me the first time half a milliliter and I was f***** up for a full day. So obviously that was too much so I did an eighth of a milliliter for about a week. Then it went quarter of a milliliter which for the first time I experienced pornstar status. Raging erection backed by raging libido. CC Allis only helps with an erection doesn't put you in the mood now if I take a quarter of a milliliter I want to have sex at least three times that day. And not just about me I enjoyed kissing and hugging and touching a lot more they even enhance is foreplay

Same for my friend, huge libido boost and euphoria. I swear I used a ridiculous low dose and it was a nightmare, well, Prami is the best example how different people respond to anything they put into them.

 

[Dunamis1]

I need to find this birdy...

 

[Cgkone]

Just like test prop
Absolutely no pain or discomfort and injection site at all. On the other hand eth or cyp hurts and lumps .

 

[hairygrandpa]

Just like test prop
Absolutely no pain or discomfort and injection site at all. On the other hand eth or cyp hurts and lumps .

LOL, here I bet it's the manufacturer -and or the amount per vial. If you use 10ml vials they put in a lot of chems to keep it sterile = pain and lumps.
I use only small vials because of it.
Test-E, 250mg/ml = no pain
NPP 100mg/ml = no pain
Cant tolerate most AAS and PH's, with exception of: Trest, Test, NPP, Mast, Anavar.
It's a curse! Only the most expensive sh1t works for me.

By the way, you were talking about upping own GH production, I prefer CJC 1295 w. Dac over MK.
The Ghrelin stimulation of MK makes me way to hungry.

 

[MindMuscleRep]

LOL, here I bet it's the manufacturer -and or the amount per vial. If you use 10ml vials they put in a lot of chems to keep it sterile = pain and lumps.
I use only small vials because of it.
Test-E, 250mg/ml = no pain
NPP 100mg/ml = no pain
Cant tolerate most AAS and PH's, with exception of: Trest, Test, NPP, Mast, Anavar.
It's a curse! Only the most expensive sh1t works for me.

By the way, you were talking about upping own GH production, I prefer CJC 1295 w. Dac over MK.
The Ghrelin stimulation of MK makes me way to hungry.

several labs are using a thinner oil and its preventing pain in up to 150mg/ml test P. been told it feels like water and can draw and shoot through at 27

 

[Cgkone]

LOL, here I bet it's the manufacturer -and or the amount per vial. If you use 10ml vials they put in a lot of chems to keep it sterile = pain and lumps.
I use only small vials because of it.
Test-E, 250mg/ml = no pain
NPP 100mg/ml = no pain
Cant tolerate most AAS and PH's, with exception of: Trest, Test, NPP, Mast, Anavar.
It's a curse! Only the most expensive sh1t works for me.

By the way, you were talking about upping own GH production, I prefer CJC 1295 w. Dac over MK.
The Ghrelin stimulation of MK makes me way to hungry.

I get it from a killer source.
I'm on cjc/imp 5xs a day
Mk was all bloat for me.
I do mk677 just not right now
I think the test is just like you said completely user dependent

 

[hairygrandpa]

I get it from a killer source.
I'm on cjc/imp 5xs a day
Mk was all bloat for me.
I do mk677 just not right now
I think the test is just like you said completely user dependent

Ha! The MK bloat! Almost forgot about it!
CJC bloats me too but not as bad.
Perceived injection pain may have to do with the injection site too. NPP in quads hurts -opposed to delts.

We are experimenting with some weird sh1t here, lol!

 

[Cgkone]

For real.
I just got tired of the mk677.
I would notice the days I skipped mk677 I just felt better.
The peptides agree with me more
Injecting dosnt bother me at all
So it's test prop for me and I think I'll run cjc/imp for 6 months.
3months trt then 3months blast.

 

[Cgkone]

Ha! The MK bloat! Almost forgot about it!
CJC bloats me too but not as bad.
Perceived injection pain may have to do with the injection site too. NPP in quads hurts -opposed to delts.

We are experimenting with some weird sh1t here, lol!

I'm also using mgf posworkout.
Biceps triceps calves and traps

 

[hairygrandpa]

For real.
I just got tired of the mk677.
I would notice the days I skipped mk677 I just felt better.
The peptides agree with me more
Injecting dosnt bother me at all
So it's test prop for me and I think I'll run cjc/imp for 6 months.
3months trt then 3months blast.

I'm also using mgf posworkout.
Biceps triceps calves and traps

3 month cruise? I don't have the discipline for 3 month, lol. Did a one month cruise and hopped right on again, after a failed bulk (got fake S-drol).
I'm on IGF 1-Des/Peg-MGF/CJC/Melanotan2 (Perma-boner!)/600mg NPP/w /300mg test-e /w

 

[Cgkone]

I didn't like peg mgf.
Do you feel the igf-des

 

[hairygrandpa]

I didn't like peg mgf.
Do you feel the igf-des

Can't feel the PEG-MGF, but at 70mcg/pin, IGF 1-Des gives a hellish pump (pinning right before workout) and sort of an "after-pump" until next day.

 

[rtmilburn]

3 month cruise? I don't have the discipline for 3 month, lol. Did a one month cruise and hopped right on again, after a failed bulk (got fake S-drol).
I'm on IGF 1-Des/Peg-MGF/CJC/Melanotan2 (Perma-boner!)/600mg NPP/w /300mg test-e /w

How this going for you?

 

[rtmilburn]

I didn't like peg mgf.
Do you feel the igf-des

Mgf is gold imo when used for long enough especially if stacked with igf(Des) and roids

 

[hairygrandpa]

How this going for you?

Just 3 days in. My quads hurt from pinning, nothing else perceived yet.

Mgf is gold imo when used for long enough especially if stacked with igf(Des) and roids

I hope it's true. PEG-MGF I used on -and off together with BPC for my injured shoulder, made a huge difference.

 

[Brandinooooo]

aside from being able to cum a full snowman, made me feel like complete dog crap

LOL

 

[Cgkone]

I use mgf no peg 4 weeks on 4 off

 

[Cgkone]

I'm very interested in try igf with mgf

 

[Cgkone]

3 month cruise? I don't have the discipline for 3 month, lol. Did a one month cruise and hopped right on again, after a failed bulk (got fake S-drol).
I'm on IGF 1-Des/Peg-MGF/CJC/Melanotan2 (Perma-boner!)/600mg NPP/w /300mg test-e /w

I thought NPP needed to be ran at a lower dose than test?
Or is that just deca?

 

[hairygrandpa]

I thought NPP needed to be ran at a lower dose than test?
Or is that just deca?

My opinion (could be wrong, beware):

Supposedly to counteract Deca-D1ck, you have to run Test higher than Deca/NPP.
Deca/NPP ups collagen synthesis. Test lowers it. If I run Test too high, I may get almost no benefits for my joints, ligaments and old injuries.
To counteract Deca-D1ck, I believe that it has to do with high prolactin, so I'm taking Caber for it.
Besides, high doses of test bloats me up and gives high BP, better let the NPP do it's thing and get lower on test.

 

[Cgkone]

Agreed no more high test cycles.
I was on a gram for 18 weeks and by the end just stretching would injure me.
I'm gonna just stay around 300-400 from now on

 

[Cgkone]

I'm on a little deca right now.
Just 200mg a week.
This is week 4 and I just noticed this morning I got thru a whole workout with no compression cuffs

 

[rtmilburn]

My opinion (could be wrong, beware):

Supposedly to counteract Deca-D1ck, you have to run Test higher than Deca/NPP.
Deca/NPP ups collagen synthesis. Test lowers it. If I run Test too high, I may get almost no benefits for my joints, ligaments and old injuries.
To counteract Deca-D1ck, I believe that it has to do with high prolactin, so I'm taking Caber for it.
Besides, high doses of test bloats me up and gives high BP, better let the NPP do it's thing and get lower on test.

Keep us updated on the cycle that's for sure I bet you will make some sick gains

 

[hairygrandpa]

Agreed no more high test cycles.
I was on a gram for 18 weeks and by the end just stretching would injure me.
I'm gonna just stay around 300-400 from now on

Good idea. I would get even lower -but I'm not sure if my test is under dosed 250mg/1mlxvial, so I keep it at 3x 125mg/week.
No more orals for me either, besides Anavar -or LGD. All others did me more harm than good.

I'm on a little deca right now.
Just 200mg a week.
This is week 4 and I just noticed this morning I got thru a whole workout with no compression cuffs

Lucky you! When I took Deca (400mg/week), I didn't notice a thing from it until week 12 -and the whole cycle was 14 weeks, LOL.
If you never tried NPP, it will surprise you. Way different than Deca. I noticed joint -and strength benefits after a week at 300mg+/week (100/EOD).

 

[hairygrandpa]

Keep us updated on the cycle that's for sure I bet you will make some sick gains

Updates at my workout log. After "donating" blood today, I may lower the NPP dose to 400mg/week. Blood is way too thick. Ordered: Naringine and Nattokinase to help with it too.
Have to keep an eye on it, as I'm mostly sitting at a desk and don't move much around.

 

[rtmilburn]

Updates at my workout log. After "donating" blood today, I may lower the NPP dose to 400mg/week. Blood is way too thick. Ordered: Naringine and Nattokinase to help with it too.
Have to keep an eye on it, as I'm mostly sitting at a desk and don't move much around.

Link and why wasn't I tagged in the first place??? Dick

 

[hairygrandpa]

Link and why wasn't I tagged in the first place??? Dick

The log is really old, since I began weight training again 2 years ago. There I post my (sometimes lunatic) attempts (like injecting dog meds into my knees) and stuff.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/277737-hairygrandpas-log-fat.html

Currently I post my workouts at a supplement sponsored log -but who want's to see that anyway, LOL?

 

[MindMuscleRep]

LOL

lmao, your damn avatar.. get internet yet?

 

[Brandinooooo]

lmao, your damn avatar.. get internet yet?

Lmao its great. Internet?

 

[Cgkone]

Good idea. I would get even lower -but I'm not sure if my test is under dosed 250mg/1mlxvial, so I keep it at 3x 125mg/week.
No more orals for me either, besides Anavar -or LGD. All others did me more harm than good.


Lucky you! When I took Deca (400mg/week), I didn't notice a thing from it until week 12 -and the whole cycle was 14 weeks, LOL.
If you never tried NPP, it will surprise you. Way different than Deca. I noticed joint -and strength benefits after a week at 300mg+/week (100/EOD).

I'm going to get some