- 04-27-2005, 09:02 PM
- 04-27-2005, 10:24 PM
I get good sleep if i take a double dose before bed, but other than that im not sure, i didnt take it consistantly since everyday twice got annoying. Fits well in my assortment of things to help me get sleep when i really need it.
04-27-2005, 10:37 PM
I think if you'll read the add for PGH closely you'll see that its
basically just GABA and glutamine, a common homeopathic GH
RELEASER. You could probably go to your local sup. shop and
get near to the same effect from taking 750-1000mg of GABA ed and
a several grams daily of glutamine.
04-27-2005, 10:42 PM
i began using it a little over a week ago .. i've been getting better quality sleep .. i've been on a hard cutter so its hard to soley attribute any increase in leanness and vascularity to the p-gh but there has been an increase .. just tossing that out there for what its worth
04-28-2005, 12:26 AM
04-28-2005, 09:33 AM
I was looking to try this out sometime in the near future too, and no Im not going to use it orally...but sub-q.
04-28-2005, 09:49 AM
04-28-2005, 10:18 AM
i started using it sub-q, but it actually would hurt for like 12-16 hours afterwards, not terrible but annoying
i've since switched to IM alternating between delts, tris, bis, and quads ZERO pain and i get the feeling you're supposed to get so i assume it works fine that way
04-28-2005, 10:19 AM
04-28-2005, 07:49 PM
I've been on it now for a little over a week, and the sleep effects are great, but it's too early to tell as far as any body comp. results.
04-28-2005, 07:53 PM
poobah i don't know since my understand is its almost like a gh "prohormone" so using it after gh would be like using 4-ad after test .. but i dont know i've never used real gh
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04-28-2005, 08:15 PM
I've been on p-gh for over a month and I love it, I've never taken real gh so I can't compare the two. My energy levels and endurance has skyrockted I'm 35 so that could be why it's working so well. I have lost a lot of bodyfat been hitting cardio pretty hard and trying to have a decent diet. Never had any type of pain from sub-q injection of p-gh I hope this info helps.
Originally Posted by glenihan
04-28-2005, 09:03 PM
04-30-2005, 12:21 PM
just started it. think im going to do 3ius in the morning and 3 at night. did anybody else get a weird tingly sensation in their limbs after injection??
04-30-2005, 12:48 PM
i inject .25ml morning and night .. yeah you definitely get a weird tingly feeling .. for me it starts with a weird taste in the back of my mouth, followed by an almost slight head rush, then a warm tingly feeling all over .. i kinda like it now lol .. but that's how you know its working, if you stop getting it for a few injects in a row you need to up the dose a bit .. but i don't know how common that is for that to happen
04-30-2005, 01:30 PM
That tingle sensation is from the GABA. When I take oral GABA I get
the same feeling if I take 750mg without having had any food 3-4 hours
prior to taking it. I'm not against pinning sups. but I prefer oral sups.
they're available/effective in that form.
04-30-2005, 07:57 PM
At 45 (with **** for energy and crappy sleep....hmmmm connection?) this is really piquing my interest. I tried the ghrp-6 (appetite suppression version) and was extremely dissapointed. What's your dose? How's your appetite? I don't need a boost there! Thanks,SdOriginally Posted by dabone12
04-30-2005, 11:53 PM
hasn't affected my appetite one way or the other
with really crappy sleep you might want to look into a new mattress and pillow .. that can make an enormous difference
05-01-2005, 09:56 PM
SD1959 I take .50 at night when I was taking .25 twice a day I was getting sleepy with my morning dose. It all depends on the person, I think I read some may get a stimulating effect at .50 it doesn't bother me. My appetite hasn't increased I would say it's about the same. Let me know if you have any more questions.
QUOTE=SD1959]At 45 (with **** for energy and crappy sleep....hmmmm connection?) this is really piquing my interest. I tried the ghrp-6 (appetite suppression version) and was extremely dissapointed. What's your dose? How's your appetite? I don't need a boost there! Thanks,Sd[/QUOTE]
05-02-2005, 01:09 AM
05-07-2005, 07:52 PM
yeah I have been using it for about 2 weeks now during pct from an eq/test cycle.....I feel great and keeping all my mass gains!
05-11-2005, 01:55 AM
05-12-2005, 04:42 PM
this doesn't need to be cycled?
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05-12-2005, 06:40 PM
No, because its injected. If u can make a sterile solution yourself with stuff bought in herb stores, go for it.Originally Posted by coffee4me
pGH is very cheap btw.
05-12-2005, 06:48 PM
05-12-2005, 07:37 PM
nothing against 'universal', but i have made my own gaba solution @ 250mg per ml.Originally Posted by Syr
been using it at bedtime after cardio and morning after semi-fasted wheight lifting.(currently on a cut, so the poundages are relatively medium).
have been losing 1/8" to 3/16" a week, around my waist. with no noticeable loss of mass, (and no cut back in calories). but then i always eat clean all year.
that may not seem like much, but at my age it is quite good.
maybe i will add some glutamine to my next solution.
05-12-2005, 10:25 PM
Mine is ordered and on the way. As an older guy who has ALWAYS had to struggle and eat clean to stay lean, I think I'd make a good test subject. Will post once I receive and get rolling.
05-13-2005, 06:21 AM
05-13-2005, 08:43 AM
10 grams GABA, 40ml BW, filter into sterile 50ml vial. cheap, cheap, cheap.
i started out with small dosages, .10ml increases at a time to guage my tolerence for the GABA flush.
am currently up to .70ml at morning and evening, filling the remainder of the pin with b12.
i am not a doctor of medicine nor do i play one on TV. but i would think that a person in their twenties would get better results than mine.
in my twenties, on the recomendation of an aquaintence, i used an arginie/ornithine supp.(which was the GH therapy of the time)
after one month, with no change to my workout or diet(can you tell i hate to diet, eat clean and then eat what i want, when i want, as much as i want), i was shredded. let me add, at this time i was not eating clean, and washing down my unclean diet with pints of guiness.
05-13-2005, 12:26 PM
this is bigryan..i changed my name to what it is on other boards...
I am using .33ml everynight before bed...its awesome!
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