GH with T3 Cycle - Require Experts Opinion / Help
- 01-04-2013, 04:06 PM
- 01-04-2013, 05:13 PM
: ) bull head thanks for your helpful advices, in fact i have changed my mind to add test in cycle at that point, what i am planning to add anavar for 8 weeks with HGH and last 8 weeks i'll add test cyp.
Right now i am taking 12.5 mcg t3 and i reduced it to 12.5mcg from 25mcg, i'll run t3 for another one and half week then exclude t3 from cycle. Then take one week rest (because i have to fly in last week of january for another country)
Will come back in feb and start 3iu hgh with 40 mg anavar daily for 8 weeks and then i'll add test in my cycle for 12 weeks and thats it. Please advice...
01-04-2013, 05:38 PM
01-04-2013, 06:34 PM
3iu of HGH a day is BARE MINIMUM to see any results in the first 6 months, first of all. Do 5iu 5 days a week and take two off. Secondly, if you have no idea what kind of Test you want to take then I'm guessing you don't know much about different esters and their half lives. Which tells me you probably don't have a plan to control Estrogen; you probably don't have a plan to keep your ball sack from turning into a raisin; and I haven't even heard you say ANYTHING about PCT.
If you want to set goals you won't achieve, have "some" results that you'll be mostly satisfied with, only to lose them in the 4-6 weeks after you're done with your cycle, definitely follow your plan.
Now, if you want to take some time to do some research, come back and tell us why you think you like one test ester over another, what you think you should do during a cycle to keep you nuts healthy and prevent you from getting male boobies, and what you think you should do when you're done (PCT) to keep your gains. I'd be happy to provide recommendations or suggestions. But this isn't high school and no one's doing your homework for you.
01-04-2013, 07:59 PM
01-04-2013, 09:18 PM
01-05-2013, 03:22 AM
01-05-2013, 05:49 AM
01-05-2013, 06:08 AM
I did not notice any side every thing went very fine and found very good muscle definition on my shoulder, chest, bicep and legs that was awesome cycle....
01-05-2013, 11:12 AM
Brother not to be mean, but you gotta do a lot more research into this before you plan another cycle. You seem a little confused as to how to run a cycle. There are tons of articles online about cycles. I would forget the first 2 cycles you did and start from scratch.
First thing I would do is get the body fat down to abt 12-14 % range. Then straighten your diet out.
Then once you get all that in check do a simple cycle. Chose either test e or test c and do a simple 12 week cycle. Look into pct cuz your gonna kill your man parts the way your going.
Just think about it bro. 2 cycles down and ur still 80kg and still looking to lose belly fat.
Most people stick to a simple test only cycle for the first 2 cycle. PCT is very very important and keep some A.I at hand to stop gyno and add that to your cycle.
Multiple compounds doesn't mean better results. And there is no short cut to this stuff bro.
Diet, cardio and a good workout plan. Keep a diary. Write down ur daily routine. It helps a lot.
01-06-2013, 01:26 PM
Thanks for yours concern bullhead! But are you talking about my previous cycles? Well maybe i used tren in my second was wrong i did not notice any significant sides however its true that i did not had a enough research at that time so its over.
Now coming to the point that i am almost half past to my current cycle so what i your opinion about it, yeah i know that hgh and anavar is costly but my research told me that its safe as compare to other compounds sides so keeping that thing in mind i decided to go with below mentioned cycle and i love to see your comments on this:
1 week to 4 week: 2IU HGH with 25mcg T3 (already completed this phase)
5th week to 6th week: 2IU HGH with 12.5Mcg T3
(Because i want to stop T3 so gradually reduced its dose)
7th week: Take one week rest without any workout, HGH and any other compound with controlled diet.
(Because i have to travel abroad)
8th week: 2IU HGH with 20mg Anavar
9th week: 2IU HGH with 30mg Anavar
10th to 14th week: 3IU HGH with 40mg Anavar
15th to 17th week: 4IU HGH with 60mg Anavar
18th to 21 week: 4IU HGH with Test Cyp 2ml / week
22nd to 25th: 5IU HGH with Test Cyp 3ml/week
26th to 30th: 5IU HGH with Test Cyp 2ml/week
01-06-2013, 02:08 PM
I wouldn't do Anavar without test, do them together or at least start test half way in Anavar cycle. Also I would do the last 4 weeks of hgh in PCT, you got one right?
01-06-2013, 02:48 PM
10th to 14th week: 3IU HGH with 40mg Anavar and test 2ml / week
15th to 17th week: 4IU HGH with 60mg Anavar and test cyp 3ml / week
18th to 21 week: 4IU HGH with Test Cyp 4ml / week
22nd to 25th: 5IU HGH with Test Cyp 2ml/week
26th to 30th: 5IU HGH PCT
Does it make sense?? Kindly comment on test dosage / quantity..
01-06-2013, 09:17 PM
KEEP IT SIMPLE
Test cyp 500mg per week split into 2 injections mon 250mg and thu 250mg run that for 10-12 weeks.
Have u sorted ur PCT out yet???? What are u planning to do???
01-07-2013, 01:01 AM
Like Bullhead said, keep it simple and keep the test dose the same during the cycle, also start anavar at 40mg. Do the last month of HGH with PCT.
Don't forget about PCT
01-07-2013, 01:34 AM
01-07-2013, 08:06 AM
01-07-2013, 08:25 AM
To be honest i dont have clear idea abut PCT, is it sone thing called post cycle theosophy?? Or does it mean Post Coital Test??
Previously my trainer gave me some herbal medicine in order to improve the liver function and protect it with expected sides, product name was levi55 if this is called PCT??
i need your advice and the way forward in this regard for my current cycle.
01-07-2013, 11:02 AM
01-07-2013, 11:04 AM
01-07-2013, 11:04 AM
01-07-2013, 11:18 AM
Bullhead gave you good advice, I'd do exactly what he suggested if I was you. I'll expand on it a little bit; anyone feel free to comment on the suggestions below:
1) Test E or C ONLY -- I had modest, keepable success with minimal sides at just 250mg once a week for my first cycle but since you're not entirely new, 400-500mgs a week split up into two pins should work great.
2) Have an aromatase inhibitor to combat gyno if you choose the upper range. You need very LITTLE of it, but you'll need it nonetheless. If you take too much, however, your estrogen levels crash and you'll experience joint pain. Something like .25mg of Anastrazole or Arimidex every 3-4 days once you feel a little itchyness under the nips should be fine to keep it in check. They normally come in 1mg pill and they're tiny; break them up into quarters with a razor and resist temptation to take more than .25mg at a time.
3) I would add HCG while you're on cycle to keep the twins healthy and speed up recovery when you're off cycle.
4) Invest time into learning about PCT, then ask advice. Some guys swear by Nolvadex (which I understand you should not use with Tren, fyi) others by clomid. I honestly can't tell you which is better, but based on some research, taking both is redundant and the difference is mininal (again, feel free to correct me here fellas). In my opinion, I like clomid better.
There's the solid foundation for a good cycle in my amateur experience/opinion. If you want to kick start it with an oral PH or with a fast acting test like prop (because it takes a few weeks for cyp or enan to kick in), go nuts. Your results will be even better. But this is the foundation.
01-07-2013, 11:24 AM
Oh boy... Post Cycle Theosophy is a new one...
I'm starting to think that the Tren you took may not have been TREN but something with the name "Tren" slapped onto it (which is okay man, we all make mistakes and trust people who may not have our best interest in mind when there's money to be made).
01-07-2013, 12:44 PM
Post Cycle Therapy. This has to be done to get your natural testosterone production back on.
The way your going my friend you mite as well rip ur penis and balls off with ur bare hands. Cuz they are going to be useless pretty soon.
I would suggest you stop your cycle and forget about any kind of aas for a while. If you don't know what PCT is your not even close to being ready to do a cycle.
Cuz your going to lose all the gains you made during the cycle and ur balls are going to look like raisins soon and ur going to grow boobs. Cuz you don't know anything about A.I or PCT.
Learn these things first and then do a cycle. Not to be rude but It's guys like you that give steroids a bad name.
01-07-2013, 01:05 PM
01-07-2013, 03:12 PM
And did not notice any side from last 2 years..
Keep one thing in mind that i ran tren cycle 2 years back and i need yours advices about my current cycle which is about HGH and i am planning to add anavar and test cyp later so could you please guide me towards that cycle i already finished 5 weeks with HGH and t3 as mentioned in my previous post.. So what is the way forward as per you guys? I need yours help in order to direct me towards the best possible direction if i don't want to stop my current cycle..
01-07-2013, 03:20 PM
01-07-2013, 03:37 PM
I am more than happy to help someone if they are willing to learn. This guy does not want to do any research and he definitely doesn't care about his health. He's looking for the answers he wants to hear. Not the real answers.
01-07-2013, 03:45 PM
:: time wasted ::
This guy doesn't even take time to read the replies to his OWN thread, for HIS benefit. He's definitely not going to do any research.
I'm sure he'll let us know when he gets that first bump under his nipples and starts to panic.
01-09-2013, 03:03 PM
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