Low dose cycle, peptides. Lets see the results.
- 05-09-2012, 02:24 PM
- 05-09-2012, 03:45 PM
- 05-09-2012, 10:12 PM
yeah man. ill post some pics later when the forum quits acting up on my phone.
did some killer deads today I have so much energy. im kranking through things. one after the.other.pm workout I did calves and thirty min of cardio.
05-09-2012, 11:27 PM
Il a little late but I'm in, like the log so far
05-13-2012, 07:41 PM
I just read all 5 pages and i just love the info i found because I was thinking about same thing few days ago and i hope author won`t mind me asking a few questions.
I was planning about basicly same cycle only i was wondering about dose. i know that 100 mcg of GHRP/GHRH 2-3x is most common, but for someone who never used either of these peptides would a dose of 100 mcg GHRP(morning) and 100mcg GHRP/GHRH(evening) be sufficent?
or maybe splitting the mod grf and use: 100mcg ghrp-2+50mcgmod grf morning and same dose before bed.
would this make any sense?
ps. is dose of GHRP-2 of 100mcg highest you can take in one shot or it can be bumped to 150-200mcg 2-3x?
05-14-2012, 09:43 AM
05-14-2012, 03:09 PM
when you say 1mcg/kg do you reffer to GHRP or GHRH or for both?
I am strong beliver in "more doesnt mean better" ideology so hearing this is a great news.
05-14-2012, 07:03 PM
GHRP-6 @ 75mcg w/
CJC-1295 DAC @ 63.5mcg
I take the GHRP-6 twice a day and the CJC-1295 w/ GHRP in one of those two doses. With that I have seen a steady increase in strength and fat burning but absolutely no loss in muscle mass thus far.
100mcg is in general the saturation point for about 95% of guys training in the gym since that equates to 100kg of total body mass. That's pretty heavy. Only the super heavies would need more to reach the saturation point.
05-14-2012, 10:19 PM
what about water retention on ghrp-2(6) and mod grf?
is it really necessary to cycle peptides every 40-50 days?
ps. which of the ghrps have least chance of water retention?
i am asking this cuz its summertime and as soon as spring goes on my "must be cut and big" alarm goes off
if it was winter i wouldnt care less but its beach time :P
05-15-2012, 05:21 AM
Thanx fueled. you explained it well. As always!
Im sorry fellas im back. This breakup has been brutal and took up my whole week... Diet was kinda here and there.... one more week and starting pct. Been running it for a while. But started peps at 3 times daily still at low dose about to finish the first vials....
Pumps are awsome. Forearms are becoming a problem though lol. They will pump so hard there cramping....
Me and my girl broke it off, she cheated on me and it has been messing with my head all week. Im starting to be better. But on a positive note. My bodybuilding buddy richy is taking me under his wing and have been working out with him all week.
Low carbing it this week, trying to keep my fat at 8%. But well see. I love how my abbs look right now. Everything def is working.... Ghrp and cjc is making me have sweats though... wierd....
Preworkout i have been using is just caffiene. Works fine and i have awsome workouts....
Ill post pics, and there ok pics since i dont have my girl here to take the pics now lol
05-15-2012, 06:14 PM
05-15-2012, 08:14 PM
05-15-2012, 08:35 PM
Looking good man. Keep up the hard work.
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
05-16-2012, 05:39 AM
thank you fellas. im still hitting it hard. I have been working out so hard.
me and my buddy yesterday did this arm workout... here you go...
its like a super set but its eight workouts as one set, and you do three sets....
started doing ez bar curls 12reps,incline curls 10r, incline hammer 10r, then cable straight bar curl 10r, rope cable curls 10r, preachers 12r, pullups close grip failure....
then we did triceps.....
nosebreakers, kickbacks dumbell, straightbar cable kickbacks, cable kickbacks one hand at a time, rope kickbacks, dips, close grip bench, and diamond pushups.....
ill tell you what fellas, my ***** hurt on that one. lol
when the pushups and pullups came around on the end of each set, I was kicking and screaming. the pushups I even tried on my knees and only could do two neer the end lol!! after it was all done I laid on the dirty sweaty floor sipping on my protein shake. people asked to help me get up, but honestly I could of sleptdown there.... lol peps are really kicking in. the pumps are incredible!
05-16-2012, 05:40 AM
but my love handles really cleared out, so imma try to keep this, I guess my fat % at 8% is the sweet spot for me....
05-17-2012, 02:50 AM
Looking good bro. If your doing a little better is your hunger back up and weight starting to move again?
05-17-2012, 05:30 AM
Yeah weight is starting to move so is the hunger. im getting all of my calories in now. im at about 4000. im trying to keep my 8% bf. I had to much bulk... so my goal is to keep it at 8 and steadily increase in bulk/lean gains. so ill be getting the pics of my.mels back in. im sorry for the hick up fellas glad yall are still with me.
05-17-2012, 01:16 PM
For sure bro, your logs making me want to run cjc real bad. I'm already starting to fiscally plan for it(its an expensive addition). I'll prolly start it in pct with mgf peg. Is the difference between mod grf cjc without dac 1293 and 1295 just the half life? Like 1293 is 5 mins and 1295 30 mins?Originally Posted by madds87
05-17-2012, 01:32 PM
05-17-2012, 05:03 PM
Mp is really frustrating cause their titles are incomplete, so I have no idea which is which.
CJC-1293 RECEPTOR GRADE Modified GRF (1-29) 2000MCG WITHOUT DAC
CJC-1295 RECEPTOR GRADE 2000MCG
I dont want dac, but it doesn't specify whether it is or not. So I'm thinking of going with the first one...
05-17-2012, 05:51 PM
The second one is cjc 1295 with dac, the first is with out also known as mod grf, mod grf needs to be taken ever time u pin ghrp, the cjc1295 only once a day
05-17-2012, 05:51 PM
05-17-2012, 05:52 PM
I can't edit from my phone.. The first is cjc 1293, very short half lid like 1 min.Originally Posted by csa2179
05-17-2012, 08:00 PM
Isn't there a mod grf cjc 1295 without dac? I've been informed with dac is bad cause it causes gh bleed, and you don't want that, you want windows of pulses. But at the same time it seems like if the only time you would get a pulse is when you take ghrp regardless of with or without dac. I just want to know which one to get. Has anyone tried both, or been getting good results with dac?Originally Posted by csa2179
05-17-2012, 08:01 PM
Ya I've always gone with ep, but I have good rapor with mp now so can get a good price.Originally Posted by madds87
05-17-2012, 08:11 PM
Yeah I've read about the gh bleed but since it's my first cycle I'm going to use cjc 1295 just because it's easier, I'm going on a three month cycle. I plan to run cjc at 100mcg per day and ghrp 2 ant 100 mcg 3x a day.
If I like this cycle next time im going for mod grf 1-29 and hex for three months.
05-17-2012, 10:24 PM
05-18-2012, 03:14 AM
Ok I'm confused as ****!
Cjc 1295 with out dac
Cjc 1295 with dac
Which one has a 30 min half life? Ep cjc 1295 with out dac says it has a 7 day half life?
"Various experiments have been conducted to test the effectiveness of CJC-1295. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism has reported dose-dependent increases in mean plasma GH concentrations by 2-10 fold for more than 6 days and increased IGF-1 concentrations 1.5-3 fold for 9-11 days after a single injection. The mean half life was 5.8-8.1 days and after multiple doses mean IGF-1 levels remained above baseline for up to 28 days following. No serious adverse reactions were reported in any group participating in this study. This peptide has the ability to stimulate growth hormone very significantly." - quoted from ep CJC-1295 NO-DAC 2mg(MOD GRF 1-29) (USA)
If that's after one injection, that sounds like gh bleed...
05-18-2012, 04:34 AM
go for without dac sir.... you want the pulse... you can def tell the diff. I did with dac first cycle of peps...
05-18-2012, 04:36 AM
either or you want that window... during the window you will get the fat burning and muscle recovery. either or.... the pulse I like cause of the long window that keep open in the morning.
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