Low dose cycle, peptides. Lets see the results.
- 05-18-2012, 04:37 AM
- 05-18-2012, 08:36 PM
- 05-18-2012, 09:30 PM
05-18-2012, 10:59 PM
05-18-2012, 11:55 PM
thank you neo. trying my.best. head srill all messed up.... but getting things done though. it def has got me steppin In the right direction!Originally Posted by Neoamerican
05-19-2012, 12:12 AM
That's what I thought and I'll take your word cause youre on it... From ep right? It's just the description of with or without dac makes it sound the same, but I guess they're not talking half lifes, just the levels of gh increase? I mean that's crazy that after one shot it'd still be so high after 6 days...Originally Posted by madds87
05-19-2012, 05:20 PM
So I think I'm going to get 4 ghrp6, 10 cjc w/o dac, and 3 mgf peg from ep for 100 days worth. It's only like $250, and I have a feeling its going to be awesome!
05-19-2012, 09:34 PM
05-20-2012, 05:08 PM
yeah i just got mine purchased. 15 vials of modgrf/ 6 vial of ghrp 2 and 2vials of hex. gona dose the hex before cardio or lifting. and the ghrp2 2x a day. thanks for the log its really got me into some serious research. Dats advice has been steller too.
05-20-2012, 10:05 PM
05-21-2012, 12:15 PM
Hex is stronger and gives a bigger spike than ghrp 6, so does ghrp 2. Ghrp 6 increases appetite and does not affect sleep patterns. Ghrp 2 can affect sleep patterns if u r sensitive. And hex messes with sleep patterns most of the time. Sense I'm not looking for extra appetite increase and I'm not sensitive to sleep disturbances the stronger ghrp 2 is what I'm going to use. But for an even bigger spike in Gh I will use hex 1 hour before cardio training and immediately following anabolic training. But not before bed so I will be able to sleep. Ghrp 6 is an excellent choice, we just have different goals in mind.
05-21-2012, 03:34 PM
05-21-2012, 04:02 PM
05-21-2012, 05:12 PM
Cool I misunderstood
05-21-2012, 07:09 PM
Best sleep I ever got was on ghrp6, and I like the hunger spike. If you want a bigger gh spike seems like cjc is the route to take, rather than hex. And even though 2 has a bigger spike 6 doesn't spike cortisol or prolactin.
05-22-2012, 04:30 AM
05-22-2012, 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by smash1904
Hex is a ghrp not a ghrh. I think u r misunderstanding. Hex will take the place of my pre cardio and post anabolic ghrp 2. I will al ways be using mod grf. And I don't have problems with prolactin or cortisol, I'm choosing a product that will give better results. Ghrp 6 is great but there are other options that result in bigger Gh spikes. That is why I'm going with ghrp2 and hex. Cycle goes:
Mod grf 100mcg/hex 100 mcg--pre cardio
Mod grf 50mcg/ ghrp2 100mcg am & pm
Mod grf 100mcg/hex 100mcg--post lifting
Mod grf 50mcg/ ghrp2 100mcg-- am& pm
This is modeled of alot of information on the Datbtrue forum. U only need one dose a day at saturation per day of ur ghrh, so u can save a little money by lowering the other dosages of ur ghrh.
To the op, thanks for this log. I have learned alot from ur post and u gave me a push in the right direction to really learn alot
05-22-2012, 08:15 PM
I know exactly what hex is, I'm saying you'd get a better spike adding ghrh rather than switching up which ghrp you use. And bc you're already adding it(which I didn't know you were), it doesn't seem like you'd really have much of an advantage switching from 2 to hex? Please enlighten me on this cause this sounds like new information to me. As for being able to do a half dose of cjc for two out of the three doses sounds like a great idea if it works, and if datbtru said it I believe it. And saving money is always nice.
05-22-2012, 10:03 PM
I'm sure it's some what less effective than dosing at saturation each time, but from what we discussed and I've read it's still a great. The switching between hex and ghrp 2 is an experiment based on theory. There is no solid data behind than. All my info I have fused between different studies. It's also to asses my tolerance to hex. As I would like to run that with mod grf and hgh for 4 months starting in August. I apologize if it sounded like I was insulting u.
05-22-2012, 11:25 PM
Haha and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was questioning you... Doesn't hex only come in two mg like cjc?
05-23-2012, 11:52 AM
Yeah, I dropped the extra cash, I'm really counting on it being noticably stronger. If not I won't get it. Planing on use ghrp 6, if the hex doesn't work out. I'll be bulking in August and the extra appetite will helpOriginally Posted by smash1904
05-23-2012, 02:16 PM
alot to catch up on here... lol...
still 175. freekin wider though stumach is tighter abs are more defined. the carb loading diet I.am loving.... waking up every.morning with my lean bulk! so invigorating... lol
upped the dosage to 100mcg on both. my conclusion on low dose is that its not as effective if you want the hunger leaning out effects...
pct is freaking going the smoothest. one week out and im already popping stiffs in the morning... and sex drive is off the charts....
am noticing some sensitive nips though. including some formestane... see how that does... but like I said best pct ever!
05-23-2012, 02:32 PM
Nice, so u think the leaning out effects have been affected by the lower dosage?
05-23-2012, 08:46 PM
yes I do believe... even at a low dose. but there again even at low I was eventually doing three times daily... so... fat burn is noticable with.anabolics and off of...
05-23-2012, 08:50 PM
05-24-2012, 11:09 AM
Fat burn was sorta lost when I went on cycle bc test and deca are both wet, and I didn't take an ai or anything... I lost a lot of definition cause I got sorta puffy.Originally Posted by madds87
05-24-2012, 11:45 AM
What I was saying is ghrp plus ghrh would make a bigger pulse than switching ghrp2 with hex. This was BEFORE I knew he was running cjc. And is it really so substantial to make it worth? I haven't researched it much so just know it as the expensive peptide that raises cortisol and prolactin so don't know... I was under the impression that ghrp isn't what really causes the huge pulse in the combo, but allows the ghrh to work - so if hex allows this to a greater extent that's awesome. Would caber and forma perhaps be beneficial to run with hex?Originally Posted by fueledpassion
05-24-2012, 04:53 PM
I've never had problems with prolactin or cortisol so in not really sure what I'll do if they pop up. I have p5p & l-dopa. But i would prefer to stay away from caber due to the negative side effects. I believe it's the other way around the ghrh makes a better environment for the ghrp.
05-24-2012, 07:32 PM
05-25-2012, 09:10 AM
I've read that caber can cause heart issues related to ischemia I believe. I'm going to run ruduce xt/ forma as a preventative.
05-25-2012, 12:17 PM
05-25-2012, 12:18 PM
Maybe water retention, what u eat yesterday
05-25-2012, 04:25 PM
Forma is good for lowering cortisol, estrogen and dht, stuffs great... And I really hope my heart hasn't had lowered blood flow which causes tissue damage and cellular death :/Originally Posted by csa2179
05-25-2012, 04:28 PM
Is that a good or bad thing? Im happy when I get heavier, and get stressed when my weight goes down... If you're still looking lean like the last pic, then that sounds good to me. I'm about to place my order, you've made me real excited about running this.Originally Posted by madds87
05-25-2012, 06:51 PM
Those sides with caber are only associated with high doses. Like 1mg+ ed. The study I read shows that 1mg every week had no long term side effects. I will try to find it for you bro.
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
05-25-2012, 09:11 PM
Ya I think I read that somewhere too now that I think about it. Caber is super effective for libido and prolactin control at just .5-1.5 mg a week. Super long half life allows long lasting effect.Originally Posted by DangerDave
05-26-2012, 10:35 AM
Yeah I take .5mg ew through a whole cycle for its libido effects. I love it and so does the old lady.Originally Posted by smash1904
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
05-26-2012, 12:03 PM
cool thanks guys, so take like .25 mon & Thur
05-26-2012, 01:29 PM
maybe.... I did have alot of.soium... which I.normally dont... thats sounds about right...Originally Posted by csa2179
05-26-2012, 01:30 PM
yeah man looking leaner than ever... so I guess im getti.g lean mass... finally moving along... my body might of.had to get used to the diet I dunnoOriginally Posted by smash1904
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