Memory Enhancing Peptides experiences?
04-03-2012 06:35 AM
Memory Enhancing Peptides experiences?
Hey guys its been a while.
Has anyone here had any experience with memory enhancing peptides?
IGF-2, FGL, IGF-1, Thymosin Beta 4 which are legendary at enhancing memory consolidation and the GHRP family especially Hexarelin have good neuro enhancing effects.
Theres also AMPAKINES, and the racetam families which iirc act on AMPA and G3SK Beta, the same way IGF2/IGF1 do.
Hormone Holds Promise as Memory Enhancer | LiveScience
Thymosin Beta 4 (T
I've read it promotes neurogenesis
The neural cell adhesion molecule-derived peptide FGL facilitates long-term plasticity in the dentate gyrus in vivo
Memory Enhancer’s Mechanism Revealed | Science Inclusive
I've read that IGF-2 and IGF-1 when these 2 are used together, there is a synergy in its power!
But has anyone here have any experience with them?
Specifcally if you did use them, did you notice memory improvement?
An increase in intelligence?
04-03-2012 09:46 PM
04-13-2012 04:34 PM
I think I might have did one of them... I don't remember
04-18-2012 09:09 AM
Where would you get FGL from? I've not seen it around.
I have lazy eye, am doing vision therapy to correct it.
Mostly lazy eye is a neuro issue more than anything else (not muscular like most people thing).
FGL promote brain plasticity, which means new learnings quicker. Vision therapy takes over 50 weeks of daily exercises to achieve binocular fusion... I'm about 30 weeks in and have had fantastic progress.
But found FGL not long back.
PM me if you know anywhere that stocks it.
04-20-2012 10:05 AM
I know of a source for FGL ive just PM'd it to you, they're a pep synthesis company, i'm not sure if a civilian can get them to synthesize it for you, but ive just started my first year in a BSc in Biomedical Science, so i could get special clearance to these compounds by tricking them by telling them its for a research project (even though thats in my last year)
As for your lazy eye, thats dissapointing to hear, hope it works out for you, i know a way to repair those it, but im just at the begining stages of this info, and all im doing is theory for now so i wont be able to give you truly helpful info untill i graduate or least till nxt year.
Thymosin Beta 4, is capable of re-paring the retina, you have amblyopia correct? well that is a retinal detachment disorder of the eyes iin which the retina peels away from its underlying layer of support tissue, thymosin beta 4 has been on record as completely reparing this.
I myself am myopic, so TB4 should help me somewhat.
Yes FGL, IGF-1 + IGF-2, Hexarelin all promote brain plasticity, through BDNF.
IGF-2 speeds up BDNF the most out of all the memory enhancers i know of, allowing for memory quicker learning like you said.
05-04-2012 12:49 AM
how much of a difference are we talking about. I've studied korean for 5 years and recently moved to japan to start studying japanese. my brain feels like it's full to bursting and I would love to have a little advantage to make things a little easier.
05-04-2012 09:52 AM
not hijacking, but i find this ironically funny. Can't remember if you took memory enhancing peptides hehe.
Originally Posted by kdog45ak
05-05-2012 05:23 AM
I personally haven't tried it yet, i'll only have the chance to try this method out mid next year for my 2nd semester, so i can't give you a concrete answer, only speculation from what ive read in the research papers published.
Originally Posted by nonidentity
From what i have read on what is available, in synergy, peptides such as IGF-1+2, Hexarelin, Thymosin Beta 4, which all readily pass the blood brain barrier, can give incredible memory and learning gains, the steroid equivalent for the brain, so i would say it will make it much easier to learn the new language.
The good thing is, those peptides are not too expensive to test out for a 4-6 week period, which would be sufficient enough to experience gains from, to get your concrete answer.
But of course for this learning regiment, you'd have to change from weight lifting to a learning routine.
Instead of weight lifting, maybe just cardio, and dosing prior and post learning exercises.
So your body doesn't use its resources on repairing your damaged muscles, this way the brain will benefit.
05-05-2012 01:09 PM
My mistake, when i refer to IGF-1, i refer to DES(1-3)IGF, that is the peptide that in conjuction with the others that will give you maximum power, based on what i've read on research papers ofcourse.
I'll try to do a full write up + explanation on all the peptides that can help in memory enhancing and learning.
"DES(1-3)IGF is a truncated form of IGF-1 with the tri-peptide structure Glycine-Proline-Glutamine cleaved from the N-terminus. It has been isolated from and detected in numerous in vivo sources, including the human brain"
I basically believe this brings our brains to the state of absorption of that of a child, allowing us to absorb new info as quickly as a child would.
Anyways thought i should add something, ive been recently reading on the effects of psychedelics and drugs like LSD, shrooms, DMT, weed etc.
And how certain users and even top level college grads have claimed to have some sought of access to their subconscious mind on them that lets them become "super-intelligent" on the same level as that of "NZT-48", while being fiction, i definitely believe scientists and say DARPA or secret research facilities have already most likely synthesized something like NZT-48, to think otherwise would be ignorant.
Something that lets you access it, without losing control or stabiltiy of your mind, like people would when on drugs, or alcohol etc.
I think tim leary (harvard professor) did a study where a lady was on LSD, learned spanish by being in a dark room with a tape of people speaking spanish, she picked up a few years worth of the language in a few hours.
But yeah just throwing that out there of course im not recommending it, ive seen countless of educated people throw their lives away on drugs and im against all forms of drugs, booze, cigarettes etc, chasing fabled dreams, so i added that, food for thought, just to think about what is possible, but what you give up in exchange for it whereas with the peptides, you don't really give anything up other than money, so the rewards out weigh that ten fold, in my opinion in anyways .
05-05-2012 11:33 PM
I don't think there's any way that someone could learn a language in a dark room listening to a tape, no matter how long or what they had. I think people need context to learn a language and without seeing what people are doing, or at least having them speak in "baby spanish" I don't think the person would ever learn. but this makes me curious about how blind people learn to speak, because they have almost no context as well..
Originally Posted by PhenomHCL
05-05-2012 11:34 PM
it was a joke lol it was supposed to be ironic
Originally Posted by mhsattack16
05-06-2012 01:17 AM
No, they may not have learned the language in it's formal way, they learned it as children do, from hearing their parents, and other people speaking it, they may not know the "formal" structure of the language, but they would know how to speak and read it fine.
Originally Posted by nonidentity
There really are many ways to learn something, context and visual perception would definitely not be the only way to learn something, not by a long shot.
Society's culture has placed a pretty millennial size taboo on psychedelics and other serotonin manipulators, and have lumped them with street drugs like heroin which is wrong, the few studies that were done, were done so in the 1960-70's before LSD, specifically became illegal, apart from Ed Nicols and a few others, theres no real research done on LSD to really give us a concrete answer or even new information on.
I know there were studies done by Norwegian universities where LSD cured, or significantly reduced alcohol abuse/alcoholism, im pretty sure AA's founder bill willson used LSD, and even francis crick was under the influence of LSD, when he discovered double helix dna, best to google it for more info though.
Anyways, whole other topic, which i wouldn't mind discussing about more in depth at a later date.
Personally i dont see the harm in LSD/psychedellics, not something i would do personally, due to your temporal loss of control on your mind and myself having deep phsycholigcal trauma and issues with depression and general mental instability, it's not something i plan on risking.
Maybe if there was a variation where you could experience those same effects, whilst keep 100% control, then yeah.
But till then, peptides all the way, im eagerly awating to try this out im glad we have access to peptides, just from medical research papers, and other literature, they alone seem like they could take you to the next level, and quickly as well.
05-06-2012 10:07 AM
This was an interesting thread to read, recently made in 2012, and he speaks directly on how easy it was to learn a new language.
Anyways, just putting it out there, it's pretty interesting to read.
Seems these psychedelics have strong nootropic effects @ micro doses on learning.
But if you're after strictly raw mental performance, the peptides are the better choice.
05-07-2012 02:56 AM
Hey Phenom! I had to register here to contact you. I've found your posts on another thread here on anabolicminds regarding height, etc. You stated you live in Aus and you managed to purchase ghenerate. I also live in Aus and I'm in the same situation. Please reply to me on zz.rocky at hotmail.com asap! Sorry for this post being irrelevant and in the wrong thread, etc. I don't know how to PM you. Thanks!
05-07-2012 03:00 AM
Oh btw, if you guys haven't, look in to racetams? I currently take aniracetam and I've noticed that I'm more concentrated and focused while doing some school work. The whole 'nxt-48' scenario thing is merely possible imo.
05-08-2012 05:34 AM
What do you want me to message you exactly?
my email is email@example.com
you can ask me the precise thing you need i dont mind answering here though.
yes i've tried all the racetams, except the legendary piracetam hydrazide, i'll probably have to make that one myself.
anyways i didn't experience, any benefits from any of the racetams, used choline, alpha gpc etc etc, nothing.
So im looking into the peptides for now and just reading more and learning more about these great compounds, and use them for memory and learning enhancements.
There is no doubt in my mind that a drug that is synonymous like nzt48 already exists, we definitely wont be hearing about it though, since those drugs are not for the masses.
05-08-2012 07:30 AM
I just thought we'd have more privacy messaging via email, but I don't really mind if it's here, it's just unrelated to this thread that's all. As you can see by my stats, we both have something in common. I was browsing through growtallforum for a couple of months also and have also heard of xcrunner. Unfortunately that forum has shut down and I've been lost haha. I've found you though. While I was on that forum, a few people have suggested that ghenerate has worked for them. I've been wanting to try it since I'm turning 17 next month and there is a slight chance that I can potentially grow an inch from it if we're talking about growth plates. The thing is you and I know how ridiculous the Australian government is when it comes to things like this. I'd like to have your input, I want ghenerate, the source, everything! Hence why email is a more appropriate place for this discussion. I'm sorry to hear none of the racetams have worked for you. I bought Piracetam off an Australian seller from WA last month or so and I didn't feel anything. I am currently taking aniracetam and I've noticed a significant change in my hand writing. I mean I write so much neater involuntarily. I am able stay on a certain task and have the motive to complete it in time. I have never heard of a legendary piracetam though. If you happen to find anything with peptides, please inform me. *offtopic height is my first priority! I'll be watching this thread
Originally Posted by PhenomHCL
05-08-2012 10:57 AM
Yes australia is a ****ty place to live if you're into this sought of stuff and generally too, im trying to move out when i finish this degree.
Anyways the epiphyseal plates never actually seal,the chondrocytes on the plates become inactive, if you upregulate them you can grow taller since chondrocytes produce hyaline cartilage, then the cartilage calcifies to form hard bone tissue.
It's been found that the plate itself never get's fully calcified, only partially, it's possible to reverse this completely and upregulate the chondrocytes, if the plates are partially calcified you still wont get longitude bone growth, they need to be fully open.
It's been a while since i've read into height growth, so my info is a little off since its not a big interest anymore, im fine with my current 5'3 height, its really not something i see as a bad thing, i actually like being short it's actually a +1 with women.
But anyways, SAM-e(s-adenosyl methionine)is the compound that upregulates the chondrocytes and opens up the growth plates.
ALSO, it inhibits cancer, http://www.biolsci.org/v06p0784.htm
xcrunner mentioned these things before he disappeared, he probably had a ton more info with him
05-09-2012 04:04 AM
Sorry about the double post above, I thought the first one didn't get through. Kinda embarrassing haha. I'll take SAM-e into note and I'll look around for some more info and reviews n such. I'm more interesting in ghenerate because I've read it has helped a few. Can you provide me with the source? I've found one on ebay from an Australian seller but it's 75 wtf? I hate being 5'3 man, I wish I was 170cm, anything above that is unrealistic. Thanks for the responses bro
Originally Posted by PhenomHCL
edit: There's not much info on SAMe regarding height, I am willing to pay whatever to grow! not willing if there isn't much feedback on it though
05-09-2012 08:06 AM
They sell Ghenerate on Nutraplanet, get IGH-1 aswell, from Nutraplanet aswell, you can get SAM-e from NP too.
Originally Posted by nicebutwise
They both worked for me, i used be around 4'8, now 5'3, so im fine, yeah i can realize why being short would make you feel bad, but to tell you the truth, i really like being short, haha no idea why, just do, feelsgoodman .
Yeah xcrunner's post, had all the info logged on how SAM-e helps with height, iirc, it opens up the growth plates through DNA methylation.
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