M1t instead of AS with igf-1!!! arrggghh
- 09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
M1t instead of AS with igf-1!!! arrggghh
I lost my source. So now I am reconsidering what I want to stack with my igf-1 r3. I was planning 800mg of cyp and 600mg of deca. Now I am thinking igf-1 r3 by itself or with maybe some m1t. I have done multiple searches on the stacking of the two and have found ditto. I don't know much about m1t that is something I can research in the supps section. I hope its nothing like 1-ad I took that a while back ****ty side effects for ok gains and costly. If this topic has been discussed before I am sorry for the post, but since igf-1 is rather new it is good to have peoples experiences discussed more then once. Also this is NOT a source request please don't bother if there is any scammers out there. I will ignore your messages.
- 09-03-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by SeaHawk22
09-03-2004, 11:55 AM
Yeah you stack M1t with IGF, it is an AAS- just a legal one. It's nothing like 1ad, I assure you. Don't take it for more than 4 weeks due to high toxicity & major shutdown. I would not take M1t without test or 4ad (cyp or dermal). The sides are harsh compared to most AAS, test helps offset them. But the gains are big too. The PH forum is loaded with M1t info.
I've taken IGF alone, it works but the effects are mild. I think the best way to maximize it is to use on-cycle.
09-04-2004, 05:07 PM
thanks bro, I just bought a ton of it, its dirt cheap. I think I am going to run it somewhere between 20mg to 30mg a day for three weeks. With some transmerdal 4-ad low dose just to reduce sides. I will also be taking 65mg (I need to do the math again, whatever 2 bottles in 30 days comes out to.) of igf-1 r3 a day divided into two dosages one in the morning and one at night. I want to run the igf-1 r3 longer then the m1t so I can use it post cycle. Oh and I will run nolva pct. I will keep everyone informed on how the combination will work.Originally Posted by Longdog
A second option for the timing of when I take my igf-1 r3 is post workout. The problem with that is sometimes I workout midday so I do not want to take it at say 8:00AM and then take it again at 3:00PM.
09-04-2004, 07:30 PM
Oh I just signed up with a nutrition specialist. He will be monitering my body weight and fat percentage weekly. So I will know how well the stack worked.
09-05-2004, 09:24 AM
I may be the only one to say this, but I don't think the two should be stacked. IGF isn't insulin, but from what I understand of it's use it still requires a decent intake of carbs to give you good results. With the effects M1T has on blood sugar levels (they drop like a rock) it's possible the two won't interact well. Maybe someone's got some actualy experience they can help you with, but on paper I'd be cautious about this cycle.Originally Posted by SeaHawk22
09-05-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by CDB
Oh, wow that makes me rethink it. I was still researching I wasnt planning on taking it until I felt comfortable with the stack. (meaning I wasnt goign to just go full blown out as soon as the rest of my products arrived.) Hmm I will be on a 45/45/10 diet.
Could anyone else please add to this?
09-05-2004, 02:01 PM
CBD I agree, I had a friend go hypo on M1T.
He was sweating shaking the whole deal he was freaking out not knowing what to do. After a candy bar he was fine.
09-06-2004, 03:05 PM
Screwed up. I know when you're doing straight insulin you need to down some serious carbs right after taking a shot or you can go into a coma. Seems like a less extreme but similar thing with IGF from the postings I've read, which is why I don't think the two would go well together.Originally Posted by bigmark1972
09-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by bigmark1972
i've also had trouble with low blood sugar when running more than 10mg a day.. would hit me around 11-12:00 and i'd start shaking, sweating, getting pissed off at everything, stress levels up, etc...
i would heavily recommend against taking M1T and IGF1
09-09-2004, 05:14 PM
Now there's something I didn't think of, blood sugar levels. I was considering trying m1t for 2 weeks of a cycle including IGF, I guess I'll be scrapping that idea.
Good catch guys.
09-09-2004, 08:18 PM
09-09-2004, 08:48 PM
10-19-2004, 02:11 AM
10-24-2004, 03:28 AM
the main reason i had low blood sugar problems was because of my work schedule; i just didnt get time to eat...
i figure if you take IGF1 with carbs, and keep your diet in check the whole day; like 5-7 meals, etc with enough carbs to keep you goin then 5mg M1T you should be fine... 5mg is still enough dosage to help; i ran 5mg/day once and still got decent results from it...
glad I stockpiled on this **** I got 5 bottles sitting in the closet
10-24-2004, 08:06 PM
so with this in mind, would it be wise/cautious to have something like gatorade after injecting IGF?Originally Posted by CDB
10-25-2004, 07:27 PM
I may be the only one to say this, but I don't think the two should be stacked. IGF isn't insulin, but from what I understand of it's use it still requires a decent intake of carbs to give you good results. With the effects M1T has on blood sugar levels (they drop like a rock) it's possible the two won't interact well. Maybe someone's got some actualy experience they can help you with, but on paper I'd be cautious about this cycle.
-so what would be the most appropriate substances to stack with IGF ?
How about Anadrol,Dbol ,winny or Var ?
Which one of these would have a favourable blood sugar level response ?
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