GH effects on ligaments/tendons on heavy androgen cycle

[dirlewanger]

I am an elite level powerlifter and my major concern is not so much appearance, but rather keeping healthy while being able to handle heavy weights. I typically do not take heavy androgens such as test, dbol, tren etc until 6 weeks before a meet. I have read that strong androgens such as test drastically decrease collagen synthesis, where as GH can increase this by 250%. My question is, can the collagen building properties of GH offset the negative effects of large doses of test upon the connective tissue. I was planning on 2iu/day for extended periods of time. Finally, how long should it take before my joints feel more healthy at this dose?

 

[Boss_K]

i have read it can help heal cuts, etc, and they use it in the hospital for burn patients....i dont really know but my guess is it could help.

 

[crazydoc1]

You'll find the anti-aging community quipping 6 months before drawing judgment numbers with regard to GH. I have yet to read a study with regard to GH and connective tissue but for a stable patient, the healing curve burns (as referred to) and other surgeries; one finds drastically improved recovery times but generally at dosings that are far in excess in 2 iu/day.

On a personal anecdotal note, I've seen several persons recover from knee surgeries, discectomies, hip replacements, foot surgeries, etc at a very progressive rate at 2-3iu/day.

2 IU/day is a good long-term fat-loss and anti-aging oriented dose which should keep your risk of any acromegalic expression very low. Don't expect any profound anabolic expression though. 4-6 IU/day will bring acromegalic and other risks but you'll find some of the anabolic you seek and great synergistic reaction with the enhanced Test.

For me personally-- the 2-3 IU/day baseline will be there for the remainder of my life I expect with occasional windows of 4-6 IU/day.

 

[Fastflight]

It´s dose dependent-something around 200mg Test a week will help our tendons an dthey´ll get stronger but much more will be contraproductive and even lead to rips in tisues when loaded heavily

 

[dirlewanger]

It´s dose dependent-something around 200mg Test a week will help our tendons an dthey´ll get stronger but much more will be contraproductive and even lead to rips in tisues when loaded heavily

The basic question though is can the collagen building properties of GH offset the negative effects strong androgens such as testosterone have upon the ligaments/tendons and other collagenous structures?

 

[Fastflight]

I think yes-depenedent on the steroids used and the dose(winny makes the tendons thicker but lessens crossfibers in them,so they´re gettin´ weaker),gh can negotiate the negative effects of heavy steroid-use on tendonds to a certain degree.