will nolvadex affect my igf gains...

  1. will nolvadex affect my igf gains...


    ???...I'm currently taking both during PCT ?


  2. no it wont
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  3. COOL THANKS

  4. I got a PM saying i was wrong, so i'll explain.

    What causes muscle growth is Igf-1EA, which is expressed in the skeletal muscle. Nolva on the other hand lowers systemic IGF-1, therefore it shouldn't effect gains.

  5. Do you think the slight raising of test levels are enough to outweigh the drop in systemic IGF-1 if someone is taking nolva alone to improve gains (not PCT)? I know most dont do this, but I have heard of some.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by TheUsual
    Do you think the slight raising of test levels are enough to outweigh the drop in systemic IGF-1 if someone is taking nolva alone to improve gains (not PCT)? I know most dont do this, but I have heard of some.
    I have heard of this too, combining nolva and hgh, but I do not understand the theory behind it. Anyone else heard of this and can explain?

    SeaHawk1122

  7. bump

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JonBlaze
    I got a PM saying i was wrong, so i'll explain.

    What causes muscle growth is Igf-1EA, which is expressed in the skeletal muscle. Nolva on the other hand lowers systemic IGF-1, therefore it shouldn't effect gains.

    Theres your answer..

    Since you are adding IGF-r3 to your body, and nolva lowers natural IGF, but does not effect exogenous (from an outside source, in this case IGFr3), it should not be a problem. I have taken nolva with IGFr3 and didnt have a problem that I could notice. Actully I have made some of my best gains while post cycle on nolva and clomid.

  9. Hey folks

    Ok it's my first post so here goes.

    Well i did a 2 month cycle of test,deca,tren and dbol and i did not use anything for pct cause i was told by old school bb'ers that they never needed it first cycle cause they bounced back quick.

    I DID however have nolva on hand just incase.

    Ok well cycle ended 2 months ago and my "Boys" grew back in no time and natural test levels went up fast and im fine.

    Im 28 and 200 pounds about 10% b/f just to let you know.

    I have 100/10mg nolva pills on hand and im going to run:


    50mg/day first week
    40mg/day second week
    30mg/day third week
    20mg/day fourth week
    10mg/day fifth week

    Well im wondering if this is worth a try?

    When i was on cycle aside from muscle i had no sides. No mood swings, anger or anything like that.

    Thanks for any input.
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