will nolvadex affect my igf gains...
- 08-18-2004, 11:40 PM
- 08-18-2004, 11:49 PM
08-18-2004, 11:52 PM
08-19-2004, 12:24 AM
I got a PM saying i was wrong, so i'll explain.
What causes muscle growth is Igf-1EA, which is expressed in the skeletal muscle. Nolva on the other hand lowers systemic IGF-1, therefore it shouldn't effect gains.
08-19-2004, 09:15 AM
Do you think the slight raising of test levels are enough to outweigh the drop in systemic IGF-1 if someone is taking nolva alone to improve gains (not PCT)? I know most dont do this, but I have heard of some.
08-24-2004, 11:12 PM
I have heard of this too, combining nolva and hgh, but I do not understand the theory behind it. Anyone else heard of this and can explain?Originally Posted by TheUsual
02-06-2005, 04:42 AM
02-06-2005, 06:44 AM
Originally Posted by JonBlaze
Theres your answer..
Since you are adding IGF-r3 to your body, and nolva lowers natural IGF, but does not effect exogenous (from an outside source, in this case IGFr3), it should not be a problem. I have taken nolva with IGFr3 and didnt have a problem that I could notice. Actully I have made some of my best gains while post cycle on nolva and clomid.
04-22-2006, 11:36 PM
Ok it's my first post so here goes.
Well i did a 2 month cycle of test,deca,tren and dbol and i did not use anything for pct cause i was told by old school bb'ers that they never needed it first cycle cause they bounced back quick.
I DID however have nolva on hand just incase.
Ok well cycle ended 2 months ago and my "Boys" grew back in no time and natural test levels went up fast and im fine.
Im 28 and 200 pounds about 10% b/f just to let you know.
I have 100/10mg nolva pills on hand and im going to run:
50mg/day first week
40mg/day second week
30mg/day third week
20mg/day fourth week
10mg/day fifth week
Well im wondering if this is worth a try?
When i was on cycle aside from muscle i had no sides. No mood swings, anger or anything like that.
Thanks for any input.
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