looks good to me man; i dont think ull need anything else
Summer is fast approaching and what better way to bring it in.
I will build up to something like this:
100mcg CJC-1295 / Mod GRF(1-29) no DAC 3x ED
200mcg GHRP-6 3x ED
starting with both compounds dosed once before bed, feel that out for a bit, then bump up to once at waking and once before bed. After I feel comfortable with that I will dose at waking, PWO, and before bed.
I would like to run this for at least 3 months, 6 months preferred if everything goes well.
I have everything lined up ready to order.
100ct 28g 1cc 1/2" syringes
30mL Bacteriostatic water
Alcohol prep pads
and even a biohazard needle disposal bin.
How does this look? Would anyone be interested in a log?
looks good to me man; i dont think ull need anything else
PM me about my peptide research findings
I am considering using both peptides soon so I would follow your log.
Is there anything like intestinal growth associated with these? Anything like IGF1?
hey man i am also trying this stuff out for the first time this summer, i am doing the exact same thing, cept 100mcg of each (morning/preworkout), (after workout), and (before bed)
This is the best info I could find:
The distended guts you see in certain BBers is NOT from intestinal enlargement. Good god. The amount of growth you'd have to see in those organs to distend one's gut would be phenomenal. Intestines are relatively thinly walled, flexible, soft tubes. To cause notable distension, it would mean the intestines are growing in length, wall thickness, diameter... they would literally constrict themselves. Simply because skeletal muscle and certain epithelial, smooth muscle (and other) cells in the gut both have IGF-1 receptors does NOT mean they react to the peptide's presence in the same way! And yes, acromegaly DOES mean internal organs grow as well. However, bear in mind these people have elevated GH levels 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for YEARS at a time. The first symptoms are NOT enlarged intestines or a large gut. Rather, cardiac hypertrophy, enlargement of vocal cords, enlargement of the tongue, etc. are all seen first.
One of the main concerns I see people talking about is the smooth muscle that comprises the intestinal walls... in other words, you've got muscle tissue in there with a high concentration of receptors. Yes, intestinal smooth muscle has a high amount of IGF-1 receptors, and IGF both inhibits apoptosis (cell destruction) in this tissue as well as promotes growth. However, smooth muscle hypertrophy occurs at a MUCH slower rate than skeletal muscle (striated) or even cardiac muscle. There are certain conditions (Crohn's disease, etc.) where notable intestinal hypertrophy occurs (over years), and causes a huge number of problems. A distended gut is NOT one of the signs of said hypertrophy.
Insulin, steroids, IGF, etc. can all increase the amount of visceral fat carried by the body, cause hypertrophy of the rectus abdominus, transverse abdominus, and obliques, cause GI upset (and therefore gas)... many BBing diets cause changes in gut flora and fauna (also causing gas)... these are ALL factors that cause that notable distension in top BBers. GH gut is a myth with NO scientific backing whatsoever. Not that it can't technically occur, but that it's responsible for the big guts you see out there. These guys would have chronically impacted bowels, severe cardiac issues, grossly enlarged larynxes, and a bunch of other problems stemming from GH/IGF-1 use before their growing intestines became a problem.
Edit: Also in short:
GH boosting peptides have far less potential to cause acromegaly and other HGH-related side effects because they only cause very brief, intense spikes of GH and, subsequently, IGF-1. Chronic IGF-1 elevation is what causes the side effects associated with HGH abuse.
This is paraphrased from Datbtrue.
I run the same combo but with GHRP-2, only been 3 weeks and already can see a difference.
Does anybody know how long bac water needs to saturate before use?
I just read it can be used almost immediately, but I've also heard you need to wait a day or two. Can't seem to find that info again.
if you reconstitute with BW and you let it sit for 2 days you can pretty much be assured that you will not be injecting live bacteria into your body.
Edit: Answered my own question with a quick google search. Duh.
i mix and inject never had a problem and im on ghrp6 and 1295, 6 b/c it makes me hungry and if you have a fast metabolism u need all the calories u can get.
I'm looking at running a CJC-1295 and GHRP-2 cycle as well so I'm gonna follow this thread.
Do have one quick, probably "stupid" question though. If 1 bottle of CJC has 2mg in it, I'm going to assume that adding 2ml of Bacteriostatic water to it you would have 100mcg every 10iu correct? My question is, using the 1cc (100 units) insulin pins what number would you draw too to give you the 100mcg per injection? Would it be only 10 units drawn?
And are you guys doing IM injections or just SubQ?
Yes your math is absolutely correct. I put 2.5ml into my 5ml vial of GHRP to give me 200mcg for a 10iu pull.
Do it subQ look up tutorials online. It's very easy once you get the hang of it.
But for some tips:
-Pull air into the vial as eqaul to the amount of solution you will withdraw
-Once I pull desired amount I like to space about 5iu worth of air between that and the next chem
-Repeat process with second chem, then lightly swirl or tap to mix the 2
-Release excess air
Try not to poke the rubber stoppers more than you have to; once in each vial. The needle tips are very fragile so be careful what they touch.
Ok today is a week on this stuff.
So far I am amazed. I can't imagine ever coming off of it.
I have gained 5 pounds and have noticed fat loss with no change in diet (or even a slight increase in calories).
The pumps are decent and muscles seem to be hardening.
I sleep for 6 hours and feel perfectly rejuvenated. My dreams are very vivid and entertaining.
Overall a better sense of well-being and mental clarity.
Amazing A+ products in this combination!
Nice to hear and glad it's working good for you. Keep us updated. You doing 3 doses ED yet?
4 more weeks of my Test cycle then I'm on to this as well.
Yes I am dosing 3xED and yes it can be a pain in the ass. It sucks turning your midsection into a pincushion.
One thing I forgot to note was that I have had problems with my rotator cuff for nearly 2 years. It would pop on nearly every rep when I did delts and stretching exercises were marginally helpful at best.
Well day 5 I did shoulders and had almost no problems, only a pop here and there which went away after stretching!