GHRP-6 worth it?

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  1. Thanks! That made me feel better. I was hung up on the 1295 vs 1293 when the focus should be mod grf 1-29. Well all I have left to do is order!


  2. Coors I fully admit that I am new to the peptide discussion but I have to say a vast majority of what I have read is geared toward the synergistic effect of Grhp and Mod 1-29. I have read for months on end now and your opinion seems to be in the minority. Everyone is different and has different results but with all the DATA to back up the majority opinion of using these two peptides together I'm going to trust the science and use both. As far as administering 3x a day, yea its a slight negative but I am home when I wake and go to bed and my gym is literally around the corner so it won't be a huge deal.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by diesel7 View Post
    ghrp-6 makes some people really hungry, to help with gains. It didnt really do it to me though. You do not want cjc with dac, it causes gh bleed because of the long half life. This is according to dat, who is the man when it comes to this stuff. His research is where I have been learning every thing. Ghrp-2 is the best bang for the buck for gh release. Might be best to include a cort block with it, and something for prolactin also, L dopa. Ipamorelin is about equal to ghrp-6 but without the hunger and cortisol issues. I have been using ghrp-2 during the day, and ipamorelin at night. Liking the results so far.
    In light of that, I've always wondered what GHRP-2/CJC and Clenbuterol would do in PCT. Will be trying it in my next PCT in the fall. (I believe Clen is a cort blocker)

    I'm gonna try it alongside Clomid/Nolva. I'd leave the lean gains up to Test/Tren/GH/IGF etc.. I would use these natural hormone stimulants for maintenance. Just keeping the gains is the struggle IMO.

  4. Huperzine A the oral stuff? Like from GNC one the posts confused me because he said injected after workout. But after re reading the post I think he meant he injected his peptides. Also what do you me by "Makes the peptides kick hard" and why do I have to worry about it, what side effects am i looking for I've been running cjc 1295 no dac and various combinations for ghrp 6, 2 and ipamorelin because I apparently under the impression that sensitization occurred with all but you are saying with hexarelin only. I am buying some Huperzine tomorrow what should I expect??

  5. So why do CJC and the GHRP products stacts stack so well together? Will GHRP not release much GH without the CJC? Will I not be able to get any leaning or injury healing benefits from just a GHRP product??

    Also, at 25, do you think huperzine A and EECG could get my gh to puberty levels, or is that just asking for to much from supplememnts?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    So why do CJC and the GHRP products stacts stack so well together? Will GHRP not release much GH without the CJC? Will I not be able to get any leaning or injury healing benefits from just a GHRP product??

    Also, at 25, do you think huperzine A and EECG could get my gh to puberty levels, or is that just asking for to much from supplememnts?
    Well, yes I have been told by those who know more than me regarding Peptides, that CJC1295 NO DAC + GHRP-6 or GHRP-2 will amplify the effect greatly, where a 1+1=5 sum is reached, meaning the aggregation or compounded effect of these two products taken together would push through the glass ceiling where GH pulse is concerned.

    As far as realizing puberty levels of GH, I have no idea... but, at the 300-400mcg 3-4x per day injections to reach total maximum saturation per dosage, I would think you'd be far exceeding your puberty levels by artificially forcing GH to pulse with exogenous modulators. I am only theorizing here. Superphysiological dosages and subsequent in vitro activity usually always overcomes any natural levels of a hormone, even during the wonder years of life

    As far as Huperzine-A and Green Tea extract... hmmmm... I want to believe, I really do, but I have been told by a chemist I know personally and who is familiar with these peptides, that it all amounts to a pipe-dream, and that theses peptides are very powerful on their own if taken correctly (empty stomach and proper amounts).

    Thoughts anyone?

  7. One question you should ask is wether he believes the peptides are just to powerful for any supplement to enhance there performance, or if he thinks that the supplements just dont do anything to decrease somostatin, even as standalones.

  8. I dont know much but I do know this...peptides do increase resulst, and intensity in the gym; espically if you know how to workout like you should. The reason these 2 peps work so well together is this...The male gh release is 3 times/day morning, noon, and night. CJC mimics this pulse and ghrp amplifies these pulses in conjunction wiht the CJC..make sence???? I have been on it now for 6 weeks and have notices great results that are solid; including but not limited to...great increase in aggression (people in the gym are like what the F*** is he on?) good pumps, increase in appetiet, weight loss, sence of well being, deep...deep sleep and solid mass that will stay. To me that is perfect, I would like to see what they can do 8 months from now. Follow my log at mk-2886+cjc+ghrp on this fourm...

  9. Well, there was no response to my question but I am a noob on here so I understand. I have been running peptides for a two months. The first set was cjc 1295 no dac and ghrp 2, got very lean joints stopped hurting super deep sleep and vivid dreams. Next I ran cjc 1295 no dac and ipamorelin, did not notice as much in the way of results, I would like to say however that both the ghrp 2 and the ipamorelin caused sever appetite increase. I was able to withstand it. Next ran ghrp 6 and cjc not dac, Joints are hurting again but that is my fault, shoulders and elbows felt good so pushed too hard and upped weights too fast. Consequently hurt elbow and right shoulder. Currently have backed off some and am still making gains. I added huperzine a and green tea extract yesterday. I wasn't expecting a change, but it was very noticeable, definite head rush, slight nausea and super vivid movie like dreams as well as tingly hands, wish I'd known about that earlier as I think my results would have been much better with the huperzine A from the get go. I am 46 and 207lbs

  10. Huperzine A and EGCG aren't necessary, I think benefits would be marginal, but it's pretty cheap and easy to add. I'd try them to see if it makes a difference for you, I personally like it, little better headrush for me at least. 200mcg Huperzine and 350mg EGCG. You can get Huperzine cheap on Amazon.

    GHRH/GHRP combo rocks, try to dose them 30 minutes before food to block adipocytes, best time to dose is the 2 times before your biggest meals and pre or post workout. I like pre-workout, gives me good pumps. You should generally allow 3 hours between doses.
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  11. The first couple weeks I dosed pre workout, then the general consensus was post work out, can anyone tell me the logic behind it, I've searched numerous threads but no explanation of post vs pre. The Huperzine A an egcg made a tangible difference to me and they are cheap so why not. Felt Hypoglycemic after though, a tad dizzy, I am low carbing though

  12. There are arguments for pre and post. Pre so you get the pulse while working out and an IGF spike, and also less Free Fatty Acids circulating.

    I think the best argument for post is for post workout nutrition, so it block adipocytes and you get the spike when you're most receptive to recovery and growth. This works best with doing IGF-DES pre-workout and GHRP/GHRH post.

    Both work fine IMO as long as you don't have food before and wait 30 minutes after. I like GHRP-6 before big meals, and Ipa all other times.

    These are just my "bro-science" perspectives, based on personal experience, so take it with a grain of salt.
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  13. I believe you are on the right track. DES pre-workout and GHRP-6 post. Although GHRP-2 is best to use, and taken at night since it makes you sleepy. Even better take peg-MGF mid-afternoon EOD alongside...

  14. I never thought about taking a different ghrp for a different part of the day, perhaps I'll give it a try I just posted pics of my cjc 1295 GHRP results in the pics section under 1's pics post. I am 46 years old 6'1'' tall and weigh 207

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    There are arguments for pre and post. Pre so you get the pulse while working out and an IGF spike, and also less Free Fatty Acids circulating.

    I think the best argument for post is for post workout nutrition, so it block adipocytes and you get the spike when you're most receptive to recovery and growth. This works best with doing IGF-DES pre-workout and GHRP/GHRH post.

    Both work fine IMO as long as you don't have food before and wait 30 minutes after. I like GHRP-6 before big meals, and Ipa all other times.

    These are just my "bro-science" perspectives, based on personal experience, so take it with a grain of salt.
    I think those perspectives have some scientific backing. How much I'm not sure. But Carbs/Fats blunt GH release....so if you're doing it pre workout you'd need to eat your preworkout close to 1.5-2 hours prior to your workout. If you're doing it PWO you can take it with some BCAAs and wait 30 min then eat. Think of the BCAAs like mortar and GHRP/GHRH are the bricks.

    If I have the time I will try to dig up a study that shows the difference between pre and post workout or at least an answer as to which is better and why.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I think those perspectives have some scientific backing. How much I'm not sure. But Carbs/Fats blunt GH release....so if you're doing it pre workout you'd need to eat your preworkout close to 1.5-2 hours prior to your workout. If you're doing it PWO you can take it with some BCAAs and wait 30 min then eat. Think of the BCAAs like mortar and GHRP/GHRH are the bricks.

    If I have the time I will try to dig up a study that shows the difference between pre and post workout or at least an answer as to which is better and why.
    Interested in said study, didn't know one existed...

    BTW, how do you think the GH Patch compares to peptides?
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  17. There may or may not be one.....just swore I read one at some point....I probably won't be able to find it either I don't have the slightest as to where I read it

    As far as the patch vs peptides you can go either way I think. Optimal would be to use both. If you had to pick one or the other it's a toss up. Peptides are better at preserving muscle and I haven't seen any huge gains off of either the patch or the peptides.

  18. TheDarkHalf, what's your opinion on localised IM injection for growth or recovery post OP? I read Russianstar used this method with success and read a few other users who successfully injected Subq, but around the injured area.

    Is storing them in the fridge, powder form, okay instead of freezing? I would of thought that repetitive thawing would damage the peptides but may be wrong.

    I would appreciate your input.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    There may or may not be one.....just swore I read one at some point....I probably won't be able to find it either I don't have the slightest as to where I read it

    As far as the patch vs peptides you can go either way I think. Optimal would be to use both. If you had to pick one or the other it's a toss up. Peptides are better at preserving muscle and I haven't seen any huge gains off of either the patch or the peptides.
    What do you dose the peptides at? I had good results 300mcg Ipa and 150mcg Mod GRF 2 times a day, and even better when adding GHRP-6 and Mod GRF in the afternoon before lunch. I really noticed a difference for muscle gains when I changed dosing to be 30 minutes before food.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    What do you dose the peptides at? I had good results 300mcg Ipa and 150mcg Mod GRF 2 times a day, and even better when adding GHRP-6 and Mod GRF in the afternoon before lunch. I really noticed a difference for muscle gains when I changed dosing to be 30 minutes before food.
    I was cutting and dosing GHRP-2 100mcg and Mod GRF 100mcg 3x per day AM, PWO, and PM. I would wait 30 min before eating anything after dosing. Eventually I bumped it up to 200mcg GHRP-2.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    TheDarkHalf, what's your opinion on localised IM injection for growth or recovery post OP? I read Russianstar used this method with success and read a few other users who successfully injected Subq, but around the injured area.

    Is storing them in the fridge, powder form, okay instead of freezing? I would of thought that repetitive thawing would damage the peptides but may be wrong.

    I would appreciate your input.
    I just do subq. I don't know too many people who do peptides IM. You can do it....would probably work better with IGF. You'll just have to read and experiment and see what you like best.

    Yeah you can store them either way. I keep them in the freezer until I'm ready to use them, then put them in the fridge for a day or two to let them adjust to the temp, then reconstitute and use them. I think you only run into damaging the peptides after it's been reconstituted.

  22. The effects of GHRP and GHRH are not local as far as I've read, they act on pituitary gland to release GH, and then the GH acts on the liver to release IGF at that point, GH pulses stop as the IGF is negative feedback. The IGF and GH are both systemic at that point, not localized. IM would net nothing better than sub-q, and it would probably act faster if you need that. No net benefit IMO though.

    IGF DES is a different story, that can be applied more locally and IMO should be done IM where you're working out pre or post.

    IGF-1 LR3 doesn't matter as much since it takes more time to act and has a longer half life so it will "float" away before delivering concentrated doses. I'd still do it IM on the off-chance it works, but I don't think results are much better for sub-q versus IM on the LR3.
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  23. Thankyou both for the reply, I'll stick with subq.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Huperzine A and EGCG aren't necessary, I think benefits would be marginal, but it's pretty cheap and easy to add. I'd try them to see if it makes a difference for you, I personally like it, little better headrush for me at least. 200mcg Huperzine and 350mg EGCG. You can get Huperzine cheap on Amazon.

    GHRH/GHRP combo rocks, try to dose them 30 minutes before food to block adipocytes, best time to dose is the 2 times before your biggest meals and pre or post workout. I like pre-workout, gives me good pumps. You should generally allow 3 hours between doses.
    I too, have not totally bought into the Huperzine theory. Peptides, especially when stacked, and use in saturation dosages, actually approach real growth hormone levels when an athlete works out the math - so I'm not too gung ho on buying more products to impart a slight/marginal effect in the efficacy of the peptides.

    PS: I have never heard anyone talk about the pumps caused by the GHRPs before, but you're right, what a great tight feeling! It's been nearly a full month for me now, and it's really in gear at this point.

  25. I was skeptical about the huperzine, I will tell you I've never had the head rush, tingly hand thing until the huperzine egcg combo, also dreams were intense before, now they are movie quality. Bad thing am sleeping so deeply I am shutting off my alarm without waking up. As far as what the peps can do check out my pics, under "1st pic post they leaned me out no calorie reduction and no cardio(I hate Cardio)
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