GHRP-6 worth it?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by diesel7 View Post
    All in the studies.
    Word.


  2. Things got confusing and kind of heated in here - anyone want to help me out with some cliff's notes, if I admit I'm just being super duper lazy?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Things got confusing and kind of heated in here - anyone want to help me out with some cliff's notes, if I admit I'm just being super duper lazy?
    Not heated at all. I'm cool . Just showing the new guy how things roll around here.

    So what do you want to know?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Not heated at all. I'm cool . Just showing the new guy how things roll around here.

    So what do you want to know?
    I'd like to know how to eat cornbread and ice cream cake every day without gaining fat... but specifically, I'd like to know what has the best synergy without worrying about desensitization, and the most dramatic recomping effect.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I'd like to know how to eat cornbread and ice cream cake every day without gaining fat... but specifically, I'd like to know what has the best synergy without worrying about desensitization, and the most dramatic recomping effect.
    I would go with GHRP-2 and Mod GRF 1-29. Should recomp you nicely, won't raise prolactin, won't raise cortisol, won't desensitize. I would start smaller and work your way up to saturation dose (roughly 100mcg unless you're over 200lbs). So i'd start with 50mcg 3x a day just so you can assess tolerance. Dose AM, Post Workout, and before bed. Then up it to 75mcg 3x a day, and then 100mcg 3 times a day.

    After you've been on a month or two, add in huperzine a. Just be careful, this stuff will really make the peptides kick HARD. So start with a small dose 100mcg for a week and assess results.

    The only time I would recommend GHRP-6 is when you're looking for a large increase in hunger. GHRP-2 is a 2nd gen peptide and has less sides (no hunger, prolactin, or cortisol increase) where the GHRP-6 has all of these to a slight degree.
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  6. any info on the saturation dose if you are over 200lbs? Is it in dat's massive thread?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ticco View Post
    any info on the saturation dose if you are over 200lbs? Is it in dat's massive thread?
    Just know that maximal effective dosing is at 1mcg/kg

  8. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Just know that maximal effective dosing is at 1mcg/kg
    thanks for the info, reps.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    I would go with GHRP-2 and Mod GRF 1-29. Should recomp you nicely, won't raise prolactin, won't raise cortisol, won't desensitize. I would start smaller and work your way up to saturation dose (roughly 100mcg unless you're over 200lbs). So i'd start with 50mcg 3x a day just so you can assess tolerance. Dose AM, Post Workout, and before bed. Then up it to 75mcg 3x a day, and then 100mcg 3 times a day.

    After you've been on a month or two, add in huperzine a. Just be careful, this stuff will really make the peptides kick HARD. So start with a small dose 100mcg for a week and assess results.

    The only time I would recommend GHRP-6 is when you're looking for a large increase in hunger. GHRP-2 is a 2nd gen peptide and has less sides (no hunger, prolactin, or cortisol increase) where the GHRP-6 has all of these to a slight degree.
    Thank you so much, reps sent your way. I have ran GHRP-2 before, ended up mega-dosing it to test it's validity and potency, it was real haha! My jaw began to protrude within a week to the point I no longer had an overbite, it was unreal.

    I was dosing Huperzine-A as well, but I was injecting pre-workout since I have carbohydrates post workout.

    I'm glad I was informed about Hex's propensity to desensitize quickly.

    Would you estimate that this combo you listed above would be more dynamic and fast acting than real hgh? I have a couple sources, but just can't, and probably never will, justify the necessary investment.

    PS: I'm over 230

  10. yeah bro I feel you I'm over 230 myself and because I am not sh1tting out money, I cannot justify the cost of exogenous GH. I really enjoyed the combo of GHRP and cjc. I found them to be synergistic.. And not calling out coors but results will vary from person to person, considering that we are not part of a controlled lab study and we all use different sources, which could have different concentrations at any given time. Gear and peps can always be overdosed, underdosed, bunk or old, so there is hardly ever a guarantee on anything. You seem to be really opinionated and there's NOTHING wrong with having that assertive quality yet a lot of claims made on this board (not calling you out by any means) are rather subjective.

    I personally liked the pep combo, and found that the fact that it is non suppressive (for the most part) gives it an edge over exogenous GH.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Thank you so much, reps sent your way. I have ran GHRP-2 before, ended up mega-dosing it to test it's validity and potency, it was real haha! My jaw began to protrude within a week to the point I no longer had an overbite, it was unreal.

    I was dosing Huperzine-A as well, but I was injecting pre-workout since I have carbohydrates post workout.

    I'm glad I was informed about Hex's propensity to desensitize quickly.

    Would you estimate that this combo you listed above would be more dynamic and fast acting than real hgh? I have a couple sources, but just can't, and probably never will, justify the necessary investment.

    PS: I'm over 230
    Just do the post workout injection anyways. You can still do carbs after your injection, just wait 30 min post injection. You can do your protein immediately since carbs/fat are the only macros that blunt GH.

    I would expect it to be more dynamic and fast acting than HGH. Just speculation though, and I'm not 100 percent positive as i've never seen the study.

    But peptides are legal, cause a natural rise in GH, and are cheaper. I just don't see the need to both with black market HGH when peptides are just an overall better alternative.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    Just do the post workout injection anyways. You can still do carbs after your injection, just wait 30 min post injection. You can do your protein immediately since carbs/fat are the only macros that blunt GH.

    I would expect it to be more dynamic and fast acting than HGH. Just speculation though, and I'm not 100 percent positive as i've never seen the study.

    But peptides are legal, cause a natural rise in GH, and are cheaper. I just don't see the need to both with black market HGH when peptides are just an overall better alternative.
    GREAT POST! Thanks once again.

  13. Hey dark half, where are you getting huperzine? pm me. also where can I find out more info on it. Thanks. Supposedly ghrp-2 and cjc1295 mod are the strongest stack you can get, with the least side affects. I have been on it for about a month so far, with ipamorelin at night. Liking my results so far.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by diesel7 View Post
    Hey dark half, where are you getting huperzine? pm me. also where can I find out more info on it. Thanks. Supposedly ghrp-2 and cjc1295 mod are the strongest stack you can get, with the least side affects. I have been on it for about a month so far, with ipamorelin at night. Liking my results so far.
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  15. Dark Half you mention adding Huperzine after a month or so "Just be careful, this stuff will really make the peptides kick HARD. So start with a small dose 100mcg for a week and assess results." For my clarification you mean 100mcg a week or per day. Sorry I am ignorant to subject I am just trying to soak all this in.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by stresmb View Post
    Dark Half you mention adding Huperzine after a month or so "Just be careful, this stuff will really make the peptides kick HARD. So start with a small dose 100mcg for a week and assess results." For my clarification you mean 100mcg a week or per day. Sorry I am ignorant to subject I am just trying to soak all this in.
    100mcg per day - it has a half life of about 5 hours....so you could do 100mcg then 100mcg again 5 hours later

    I just cautioned to start with the smaller dose of Huperzine A b/c we all react differently

  17. Thank you. Also I know your not a fan of people not doing there research but I have and still need to clear one thing up. I am running a GHRP-2 and CJC1293 experiment. The CJC1293 is listed as Mod 1-29 on site im purchasing from they list 1295 w/ dac as other option. So my question is : is CJC1293 = CJC1295 w/o dac? Again sorry for ignorance.

  18. Guys, read this article. It explains pretty much everything about GH surges and pulses on just CJC-1295 with huperzine a. You dont need the GHRP with it, you can get plenty of results with just CJC and huperzine. I'd rather get my CJC-1295 dose up at a decent whack than run "a little of this and a little of that" not to mention, sticking yourself 2-3x/day just ****ing blows, if you have any kind of life this is just ridiculous to do!!

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by stresmb View Post
    Thank you. Also I know your not a fan of people not doing there research but I have and still need to clear one thing up. I am running a GHRP-2 and CJC1293 experiment. The CJC1293 is listed as Mod 1-29 on site im purchasing from they list 1295 w/ dac as other option. So my question is : is CJC1293 = CJC1295 w/o dac? Again sorry for ignorance.
    Here is how it was explained to me, by someone that has a much greater knowledge of this than myself. The naming convention still messes me up too.

    There are various types of GHRH's. The only GHRH to consider is tetra-substituted CJC-1295 / CJC-1295(without DAC) / modGRF(1-29). They are all the same thing but with a different name.

    GRF(1-29) is produced and sold as a drug called Sermorelin. It has a short-half life measured in minutes. If you prefer analogies think of this as a Testosterone Suspension (i.e. unestered).

    To increase the stability and half-life of GRF(1-29) four amino acid changes where made to its structure. These changes increase the half-life beyond 30 minutes which is more than sufficient to exert a sustained effect which will maximize a GH pulse. This form is often called tetrasubstituted GRF(1-29) (or modified) and unfortunately & confusingly mislabeled as CJC-1295. If you prefer analogies think of this as a Testosterone Propionate (i.e. short-estered).

    Note that some may also refer to this as CJC-1295 without the DAC (Drug Affinity Complex).

    Frequent dosing of either the aforementioned modified GRF(1-29) or regular GRF(1-29) is required and as previously indicated works synergistically with a GHRP.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by CoorsLight126 View Post
    Guys, read this article. It explains pretty much everything about GH surges and pulses on just CJC-1295 with huperzine a. You dont need the GHRP with it, you can get plenty of results with just CJC and huperzine. I'd rather get my CJC-1295 dose up at a decent whack than run "a little of this and a little of that" not to mention, sticking yourself 2-3x/day just ****ing blows, if you have any kind of life this is just ridiculous to do!!

    http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroids-...h-reading.html
    Yes I've read that post. And no, it's not an article. It's a post that originated from another website that I also belong to. A post that contains someone's OPINION. There are no cited references. No facts. All his own opinion which worked for him.

    Whereas my post a page back has cited references and data graphs from actual studies, disproving your original and ongoing claims of what you think works best (when I have science proving what we now know to best)

    Sticking yourself 2-3x per day isn't that hard to factor in to your life. 1 when you wake up, 1 after you work out, and 1 before going to sleep. Takes less than 60 sec per shot.

  21. Thanks! That made me feel better. I was hung up on the 1295 vs 1293 when the focus should be mod grf 1-29. Well all I have left to do is order!

  22. Coors I fully admit that I am new to the peptide discussion but I have to say a vast majority of what I have read is geared toward the synergistic effect of Grhp and Mod 1-29. I have read for months on end now and your opinion seems to be in the minority. Everyone is different and has different results but with all the DATA to back up the majority opinion of using these two peptides together I'm going to trust the science and use both. As far as administering 3x a day, yea its a slight negative but I am home when I wake and go to bed and my gym is literally around the corner so it won't be a huge deal.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by diesel7 View Post
    ghrp-6 makes some people really hungry, to help with gains. It didnt really do it to me though. You do not want cjc with dac, it causes gh bleed because of the long half life. This is according to dat, who is the man when it comes to this stuff. His research is where I have been learning every thing. Ghrp-2 is the best bang for the buck for gh release. Might be best to include a cort block with it, and something for prolactin also, L dopa. Ipamorelin is about equal to ghrp-6 but without the hunger and cortisol issues. I have been using ghrp-2 during the day, and ipamorelin at night. Liking the results so far.
    In light of that, I've always wondered what GHRP-2/CJC and Clenbuterol would do in PCT. Will be trying it in my next PCT in the fall. (I believe Clen is a cort blocker)

    I'm gonna try it alongside Clomid/Nolva. I'd leave the lean gains up to Test/Tren/GH/IGF etc.. I would use these natural hormone stimulants for maintenance. Just keeping the gains is the struggle IMO.

  24. Huperzine A the oral stuff? Like from GNC one the posts confused me because he said injected after workout. But after re reading the post I think he meant he injected his peptides. Also what do you me by "Makes the peptides kick hard" and why do I have to worry about it, what side effects am i looking for I've been running cjc 1295 no dac and various combinations for ghrp 6, 2 and ipamorelin because I apparently under the impression that sensitization occurred with all but you are saying with hexarelin only. I am buying some Huperzine tomorrow what should I expect??

  25. So why do CJC and the GHRP products stacts stack so well together? Will GHRP not release much GH without the CJC? Will I not be able to get any leaning or injury healing benefits from just a GHRP product??

    Also, at 25, do you think huperzine A and EECG could get my gh to puberty levels, or is that just asking for to much from supplememnts?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    So why do CJC and the GHRP products stacts stack so well together? Will GHRP not release much GH without the CJC? Will I not be able to get any leaning or injury healing benefits from just a GHRP product??

    Also, at 25, do you think huperzine A and EECG could get my gh to puberty levels, or is that just asking for to much from supplememnts?
    Well, yes I have been told by those who know more than me regarding Peptides, that CJC1295 NO DAC + GHRP-6 or GHRP-2 will amplify the effect greatly, where a 1+1=5 sum is reached, meaning the aggregation or compounded effect of these two products taken together would push through the glass ceiling where GH pulse is concerned.

    As far as realizing puberty levels of GH, I have no idea... but, at the 300-400mcg 3-4x per day injections to reach total maximum saturation per dosage, I would think you'd be far exceeding your puberty levels by artificially forcing GH to pulse with exogenous modulators. I am only theorizing here. Superphysiological dosages and subsequent in vitro activity usually always overcomes any natural levels of a hormone, even during the wonder years of life

    As far as Huperzine-A and Green Tea extract... hmmmm... I want to believe, I really do, but I have been told by a chemist I know personally and who is familiar with these peptides, that it all amounts to a pipe-dream, and that theses peptides are very powerful on their own if taken correctly (empty stomach and proper amounts).

    Thoughts anyone?

  27. One question you should ask is wether he believes the peptides are just to powerful for any supplement to enhance there performance, or if he thinks that the supplements just dont do anything to decrease somostatin, even as standalones.

  28. I dont know much but I do know this...peptides do increase resulst, and intensity in the gym; espically if you know how to workout like you should. The reason these 2 peps work so well together is this...The male gh release is 3 times/day morning, noon, and night. CJC mimics this pulse and ghrp amplifies these pulses in conjunction wiht the CJC..make sence???? I have been on it now for 6 weeks and have notices great results that are solid; including but not limited to...great increase in aggression (people in the gym are like what the F*** is he on?) good pumps, increase in appetiet, weight loss, sence of well being, deep...deep sleep and solid mass that will stay. To me that is perfect, I would like to see what they can do 8 months from now. Follow my log at mk-2886+cjc+ghrp on this fourm...

  29. Well, there was no response to my question but I am a noob on here so I understand. I have been running peptides for a two months. The first set was cjc 1295 no dac and ghrp 2, got very lean joints stopped hurting super deep sleep and vivid dreams. Next I ran cjc 1295 no dac and ipamorelin, did not notice as much in the way of results, I would like to say however that both the ghrp 2 and the ipamorelin caused sever appetite increase. I was able to withstand it. Next ran ghrp 6 and cjc not dac, Joints are hurting again but that is my fault, shoulders and elbows felt good so pushed too hard and upped weights too fast. Consequently hurt elbow and right shoulder. Currently have backed off some and am still making gains. I added huperzine a and green tea extract yesterday. I wasn't expecting a change, but it was very noticeable, definite head rush, slight nausea and super vivid movie like dreams as well as tingly hands, wish I'd known about that earlier as I think my results would have been much better with the huperzine A from the get go. I am 46 and 207lbs

  30. Huperzine A and EGCG aren't necessary, I think benefits would be marginal, but it's pretty cheap and easy to add. I'd try them to see if it makes a difference for you, I personally like it, little better headrush for me at least. 200mcg Huperzine and 350mg EGCG. You can get Huperzine cheap on Amazon.

    GHRH/GHRP combo rocks, try to dose them 30 minutes before food to block adipocytes, best time to dose is the 2 times before your biggest meals and pre or post workout. I like pre-workout, gives me good pumps. You should generally allow 3 hours between doses.
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