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  1.  05-05-2004  07:39 AM
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    Sorry to hear about your losses, but consdiering the amount Triac can raise T3 levels I feared that would happen (hence the recommendation of increasing carbs). You should actually bounce back fairly quickly and the pump should return (and fullness) within a week to 10 days. Its been my epxerience that no matter what you take, increased levels of T3 will flatten you out and you need to compensate wioth additional carbs (as T3 inhibits glycogen storage).

    As far as running the second bottle its up to you. I say go for it and see what happens but its an expensive experiment so I could see your hesitation.
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    I noticed tonight that the area i injected into the past 3 days(right side delt) is kind of numb right now - feels really wierd kind of how your mouth feels on novacane. This from the BA or daily injects you think?

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    I am going to continue the IGF until the 20th when i leave for NY for a small trip. noticed both my shoulders have that wierd numbness - i have been injecting into my delts only the whole time. I moved to my pecs this AM. Moved the belt down a hole too, so weight is definitely coming off. I am going to start weening off the triac next week and be done by next friday at the latest. i cant stand this looking flat.

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    Originally Posted by goldylight
    I am going to continue the IGF until the 20th when i leave for NY for a small trip. noticed both my shoulders have that wierd numbness - i have been injecting into my delts only the whole time. I moved to my pecs this AM. Moved the belt down a hole too, so weight is definitely coming off. I am going to start weening off the triac next week and be done by next friday at the latest. i cant stand this looking flat.
    I get the numbness sometimes too, I just hit quads today & a 4" area on the left one is totally numb. I can't feel it at all when I scratch it. I had it in my delts a few days ago too. It's wierd that only the surface of the skin is numb, I can feel it in the muscle if I push on it.

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    thanks for letting me know i am not going to have to knaw off my arm

  6.  05-07-2004  11:19 AM
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    Originally Posted by goldylight
    i cant stand this looking flat.

    Just think about this:

    What is probably one of the biggest reason quick cutting? They think they are getting small. Well if you want that completely ripped and shredded look you have to deal with this as it gets worse the lower your bf% gets. The physical part of cutting is easy, the mental part is not. You must remain disciplined and stick to your guns. If you are losing strenght, up your cals. If not, then you most likely are not losing muscle but just depleted. If your using IGF-1 with some sort of androgen it very unlikely for you lose muscle unless your diet if off (and most people's are with this 0 carb crap).
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    I actually put on a little strength since i swtched to the M1t and dropped the mdien crap. had a good workout last night. i guess i will suck it up and avoid all mirrors until i am off triac.

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    This is the problems with anything that raies T3 levels or taking T3 itself. If your actually gaining strenght (i guarantee it will drop off) then your fine. Just ride it out and when you finally taper the Triac you will fill out nicely and look leaner than you ever have. Trust me, I know how it feels. You feel flat, small and its depressing. You just have to fight through it.
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    Just the pep talk I needed. Thanks Bobo.

    *feeling flat and fiesty*

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    I always feel swole and pumped. Wait I am above ten percent BF though

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    My ego is always Swole.

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    Originally Posted by bioman
    My ego is always Swole.
    So is my dick

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    I lost 6lbs since thurs or friday when i last weighed myself. I attribute this to the triac and landscaping. I was doing crazy landscaping all weekend at my house and i sweated like i was a leaky faucet - drip drip drip. I am going to run it at 2 caps till the 16th and then run 1 cap till the 19th. i am finally flat in the front of my stomach. My "love handles" still need to go down. hair is still growing back.

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    You mean you can acutally lose fat on a 40/40/20? I never knew
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    Originally Posted by Bobo
    You mean you can acutally lose fat on a 40/40/20? I never knew
    Very funny. Thanks for the advise back in the beginning. I would be a lethargic mess on my originally planned diet. needless to say i have ended my training\guidance with my current trainer.

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    You might have been but consdiering your using the IGF-1 the increase in carbs is justified. If you weren't using it, you could be a little more strict with cutting carbs although I am against the use of 0 zero carb diets.
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    I think i am going to go down to 60-125G (60 on non-WO days, 100-125 on WO days) of carbs per day when i get back from my vacation and will not be using any chemicals(maybee an ECA). i will increase or decrease based on my fat caliper.

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    Stay around 100 at the lowest. There is no need to go below this point at all.
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    Not into CKD anymore eh?

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