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![]() | That is good news, I stared the skin yamika (sp?) about 3 years ago, maybe this will bring some of it back Whats your dosage? Do you think it could be a combo of the IGF and the rogaine? | |||
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I started at 60mcg/day and went to 80mcg/day I am also taking 4iu insulin post workout. (caution: insulin and igf-1 r3 together you need to know wtf you're doing) This was a test run, I'm going to be using it in my next cycle and I think I will run it at 50-60mcg/day I don't think 80 was any better. Last edited by serengo; 03-31-2004 at 01:05 PM. | ||||
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![]() | [QUOTE=serengo]I'm loving the IGF, getting great results, pretty much what others have been saying, good pumps, small lean gains, great overall body composition changes. The only downsides I noticed is that I can't kick my kids butt at PS2 since the video game kills my knuckles, but typing is fine and nothing else has bothered. You said it kills your knuckles, Does IGF cause arthritis? or carpal tunnel? | |||
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| CONTROLLED LABS CONSULTANT Board Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 32
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An almost arthritic feeling is commonly associated with high levels of HGH, well IGF1 has the exact same property. IGF1 will cause your hands, fingers and knuckles to ache this is one way you can be sure you got real IGF1. IGF-1's Side effects Every thing has a down side. To bake a cake ya gotta brake an egg. IGF1 is no exception. The drug used in larger quantity around the 100mcg+ range will cause headaches, occasional nausea and can contribute to low blood sugar or hypoglycemia in some users. Although I have never heard of this first hand I'm sure its true. | ||||
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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Im 28 now, and noticed my hair started to thin at 22. Started using the above combo about 8 months ago, 2 months after the starting the regimen my hair was noticeably thicker. Then I ran out of stuff, moved, and just negelected things. After about 2 months or so I started losing a LOT of hair again. So I started back on it, and within a month my hair came back with a vengence. The thing about straight minoxidil is - it stimulates hair regrowth, but does nothing to inhibit the DHT that caused your hair to fall out in the first place. Combining minoxidil with the potent androgen/DHT blockers spironolactone and azelaic acid gives a potent 1-2 hit to MPB. Using the Nizoral shampoo eod primes the scalp for hair regeneration, and also helps to inhibit DHT. I would think that combining the above combo with a cycle of IGF-1R3 would really provide some interesting results in terms of hair regrowth. BV | ||||
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![]() | http://www.minoxidil.com carries all these products, however you must become a patient first. Some of them can only be purchased with a sript, others are OTC. | |||
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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www.wholesalehairproducts.com is also a good source, although they've had some service/quality issues in the past when one of their founding members passed away unexpectedly. (RIP) I ordered from them recently, they shipped very quickly. Better prices on minoxidil+azelaic here. the minoxidil.com has a much wider selection however, and a lot of good info. The products I listed work great for me, YMMV. Defiately worth a try if you're concerned about your hair! BV Last edited by BigVrunga; 05-30-2004 at 04:35 AM. | ||||
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So far in my experience the service has been great. They had a lil hickup when Gearedup died (obviously) but its all back on track now. All orders were filled. I would like to see some independent lab tests on their Spiro 5% cream and Azelaic Acid 5% + Minoxidil 5% solution. One of you high rollers should send some in. I have no reason to doubt their quality but I always appreciate seeing tests from companies I spend money with on a regular basis. Wether it's regular supps, prosteroids, hair cair solutions anything... its still our money and their word. | ||||
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![]() | This thread got off topic... But its crazy that everyone is getting hair growth from IGF-1 R3. I guess it makes sense though. Many GH users report this also.... Im still not settled on the whole safety of it. That whole cancer thing... call me a *****. "My Hair and Tumor growth increased 75% !" | |||
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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The minoxidil site carries a superior version of Nizoral, though. Plus the retinoic acid additive, which definately helps absorption. (albeit drying out the scalp a bit) I like having the option of ordering from both places. OK, back on topic ![]() Quote:
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thats the problem with "our kind".... Last edited by Alpine; 05-31-2004 at 12:22 AM. | |||||
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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The rejuvinating effects of IGF are also really interesting. Those that are in their 40's claiming it's made their face look younger, dramatically reduced wrinkles, regrown hair, etc. Sounds like its tapping into the aging/growth mechanisms in the body on a genetic level. That's awesome, and definately kind of frightening. Maybe Ill wait until Im 70 and load up on the stuff ![]() BV | ||||
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| Running with the Big Boys Join Date: Oct 2002
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Rep Power: 0 ![]() | I do think that some of the effects of IGF-1 are age dependent... if you are older due to the reduction of your natural levels of IGF-1, the effects you see will be more pronounced when you are using IGF-1R3 |
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Rep Power: 0 ![]() | Regarding the cancer thing; I remember reading an article in like reader's digest or something, that a doctor was saying that "Most people walk around with forms of cancer everyday. It's just so little and our immune systems can fight it enough that its really no big concern." It went into further explanation, I'll try to find were I read it at....but if thats the case, then I see no reason why IGF-1 couldn't cause cancer in some. I'm not saying this is fact, but I'm not saying that I just pulled this outa my ass either....more info would be great here... |
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I saw something about this same thing on a news show about a year ago or so, (maybe 60 Minutes? maybe Dateline?). The topic was about insurance costs and doctors who abuse the processes with unnecessary procedures. The main example they used was with women's breast cancer. Aparently, most women have tiny spots of cancerous tissue that form early in their lives. With new, expensive equipment, these tiny harmless spots that would never ever have grown were being removed as a precaution. It was a well understood fact in the medical community that these cancerous spots were absolutely harmless and that they were not even worth logging in a medical record with the frequency most of these women were getting mamograms. | ||||
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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![]() ![]() | So, assuming that many of us are carrying a miniscule amount of some type of cancerous tissue - then IGF1R3 usage could possibly aggrivate this tissue into becomming a tumor? Even for the 4 weeks that a cycle lasts? BV | |||
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Hey BigV, did you start your AAS cycle yet man?? If so, hows it goin bro?? | |
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| -Dalla Hunga- Board Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere between a 4x12 stack and a power rack... Age: 34
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Plus, Ive learned so much from this site Id like to give back a little by posting up a really detailed cycle log. Im so busy right now with work, and I dont have a training partner at the moment. Everything has to be just right before I embrace the dark side... Muhahahahaha!!![]() BV | |||||
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