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Old 03-10-2004, 04:03 PM   #1
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IGF-1 Sub-Q
Second day injecting IGF-1 in the stomach. First, the stuff burns a bit, I guess this is from the BA. Second, nice big lumps under the skin. Is this normal?

is it better to go IM in the delts?

Also, if I go IM do I need to aspirate?

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Old 03-10-2004, 04:08 PM   #2
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You always need to aspirate with IM injections. ALWAYS
 
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Old 03-10-2004, 04:28 PM   #3
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It's very common for you to get lumps from sub-q injects of IGF. Do it IM, and make sure to use BAW with it.
 
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Old 03-10-2004, 07:15 PM   #4
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You always need to aspirate with IM injections. ALWAYS

I do BComplex shots IM and never aspirate. This is from my doctor.
 
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If your getting lumps your most likely injecting into some adipose tissue. If you pinch the skin enough on the side (by your oblique) and inject directly into the skinfold, you won't get lumps. But either way is fine.
 


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If you dont aspirate you are asking for trouble man nurses aspirate and all the textbooks ive read say to aspirate in IM injects so I see no reason not to aspirate. Its two secionds that can make your day a whole lot more enjoyable.
 
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How long do these lumps last? How much bacteriostatic water are you using with it? Did you dilute the IGF with more BA or leave it at 1ml?

Gorge...if your doctor told you that you didn't have to aspirate with an IM injection, then you need to get a new doctor. This is coming from some one that has been in the medical field for over 8 years.
 
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How long do these lumps last? How much bacteriostatic water are you using with it? Did you dilute the IGF with more BA or leave it at 1ml?

Gorge...if your doctor told you that you didn't have to aspirate with an IM injection, then you need to get a new doctor. This is coming from some one that has been in the medical field for over 8 years.
I am using 8 ticks of BW and 2 ticks IGF. I followed Bobo's advice about injecting into the Oblique and it works just fine now

My doctor gave me injectable BComplex which can be taken Intravenous or IM, he told me for this you do not need to aspirate. For anything else I aspirate when doing IM, just was not sure about IGF.

Thanks to everyone who helped me.... Day three of IGF and I am down 1% BF
 
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How come when I get flu shots or something they never ever aspirate....or any shots for that matter...bang right in your shoulder and inject.

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They aspirate when they do mine.

It could just be that they think they can get away with it because you don't look like you know any better!

Just kidding, man. HAHAHAHAHA.
 
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You don't have to aspirate with B Complex injections because it's an aqueous injection
(a solution) that can actually be given IV (though ususally diluted). You damn well better aspirate any oil-based or water-based suspensions (i.e. Winny)
 
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Doctors and nurses DO ASPIRATE for IM injections. Aspiration takes only a split second(so fast you may not even realize it), and one knows instantly if you are in a vein. I know this from experience.
 


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i always aspirate and hold for 3 sec... many times i have hit veins and blood comes in right away but many other time it actually takes all 3sec to see any blood...
 
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I dunno size, i should probably get a different doc. I have had nurses give me a shot, one handed...for instance this past winter when I got my flu shot..they just stuck it in my shoulder and pushed...I have aspirated on myself before, and I know this lady did not do it at all...unless she can do it one handed and in the blink of an eye...i dunno..
 
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Let's get to the root of the problem:

Why not just aspirate any damned way, since it causes NO damage?

All strongly answers welcome.
 
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I agree with you about aspirating...Im just saying ive never seen them aspirate in the docs office that i have gone to...
 
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My mom's a nurse and shoots me one handed with flu shots. I asked her why she doesn't aspirate. She said I do aspirate, silly. She sticks the pin in and with her thumbnail pulls back slightly on the plunger. If you hit a vein it will fill very quickly with blood and very easily draws back. If there's a lot of resistance she knows she's not in a vein and then pushes in with her thumb.
 
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Well, I guess this thread will now have to walk the earth for the rest of its days afflicted with an ucontrolable craving for BRAIN...
 
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Well, I guess this thread will now have to walk the earth for the rest of its days afflicted with an ucontrolable craving for BRAIN...

 


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