So How are the Results

[enash]

Can you guys give some feedback on your results from taking IGF Long? I'm really interested but it's sooo pricey younaaahimean...
Any stats on gains, fat loss, lean muscle increase, or general positive results much 'preciated. Please only include results you can discern from the IGF and not AAS or PH.

Thanks and just wanted to say I love this new board.

S

[spoofy]

as far as i know.. nobody here (except for maybe bobo) has used it .

[gorge]

Can you guys give some feedback on your results from taking IGF Long? I'm really interested but it's sooo pricey younaaahimean...
Any stats on gains, fat loss, lean muscle increase, or general positive results much 'preciated. Please only include results you can discern from the IGF and not AAS or PH.

Thanks and just wanted to say I love this new board.

S

I am on day 5 using 20 mcg and don't notice or feel anything.

[Dwight Schrute]

Dude, its been 5 days. You won't see results until about week 2 maybe week 3. And you won't feel anything except maybe a pump. Its doesn't increase strenght that much and you won't blow as if your using Anadrol. Maybe you should of read a little bit more about jit before you tried it because if thats what your expecting, you wiull be dissappointed.

[gorge]

Dude, its been 5 days. You won't see results until about week 2 maybe week 3. And you won't feel anything except maybe a pump. Its doesn't increase strenght that much and you won't blow as if your using Anadrol. Maybe you should of read a little bit more about jit before you tried it because if thats what your expecting, you wiull be dissappointed.

I got it basically for weight loss. Just posting what I am seeing on my 5th day. I don't expect much as far as muscle gains from what I read. But would like to lose between 3-5% BF which others have claimed using the stuff for a month. I recorded my BF and weight before I started, so time will tell
On my 3rd day I was down 1% but I somehow regained it on day 4 & 5.
I am also dieting (cdk), so it will be hard to really gauge the results.

[b-boy]

alrights bro, i used ifg last August (from diff. supplier) and i was totally impressed, your muscles get a weird three dimensional look, i know its sounds weird but thats the best way to describe the look you get, i leaned out hella fast too, i have used ifg while on gear and off before. I will be trying another cycle here soon while off gear.

[gobig1]

Dude, its been 5 days. You won't see results until about week 2 maybe week 3. And you won't feel anything except maybe a pump. Its doesn't increase strenght that much and you won't blow as if your using Anadrol. Maybe you should of read a little bit more about jit before you tried it because if thats what your expecting, you wiull be dissappointed.

Zactly.

When my slin pins finally get here and I can start, I expect to stay the same weight ~180 at 5'7" and just have the body comp change. Lose a little fat, gain a little muscle and a general change of appearance, i.e., fuller muscle bellies and a more tapered waist/backappearance. As I am just a few months short of 40, I don't want/need to be the mass monster any more. Me thinks the LR3IGF-1 will be an ideal way to meet my current goals.

At first I will be doing 30 days LR3IGF-1 alone, then 30 days 4OHN and M14AD stack and keep alternating like this for 6 months. Will see how this goes for a couple months, if less than desirable results, I will add some PH or AAS with the IGF. At first while on the IGF, I will also do PCT on the 2nd month which will be immediately following strong PH's. I'll put up a good log, as my divorce should be done by then and I will have time to do it.

[Dwight Schrute]

alrights bro, i used ifg last August (from diff. supplier) and i was totally impressed, your muscles get a weird three dimensional look, i know its sounds weird but thats the best way to describe the look you get, i leaned out hella fast too, i have used ifg while on gear and off before. I will be trying another cycle here soon while off gear.

Bingo! Thats exactly what happens. It changes your body composition in way that is tough to explain and you defiently lean out.

[Dwight Schrute]

I got it basically for weight loss. Just posting what I am seeing on my 5th day. I don't expect much as far as muscle gains from what I read. But would like to lose between 3-5% BF which others have claimed using the stuff for a month. I recorded my BF and weight before I started, so time will tell
On my 3rd day I was down 1% but I somehow regained it on day 4 & 5.
I am also dieting (cdk), so it will be hard to really gauge the results.

IGF-1 works better with a 40/40/20 split or even lower fat diet. Its an extremely potent nutrient partioner and more carbs will help keep muscle glycogen full (give you more pump) while the IGF-1 increases oxidation of FFA's. I would switch if I were you because you will get better results that way.

[gorge]

IGF-1 works better with a 40/40/20 split or even lower fat diet. Its an extremely potent nutrient partioner and more carbs will help keep muscle glycogen full (give you more pump) while the IGF-1 increases oxidation of FFA's. I would switch if I were you because you will get better results that way.

40% protein, 40% fat, 20% carbs, Is that right Bobo? If that is the case then
I will increase my carbs.

[Dwight Schrute]

Yep. Keep the fats CLEAN fats too. Limit your saturated fat as much as you can.

[whale]

I have been on for over a week now and I can def see a difference in the look that you are talking about. As for the pumps good, but not unbearable, which in my case is a great thing. I want to still be able to lift for more than 10 min. And as far as vascularity is concerned, wow I cant believe it. And I still am thinking holy crap I still have a couple more weeks on it. By the way just a side note I took t3 through the first week and although i knew I would loose some water, I had just stopped d bol, and am still taking test I noticed a crazy drop in water. Almost too much; might have been from not getting enough carbs at first. I lost way too much weight but added carbs and it went back up with a noticably leaner look. It did not come back to original starting weight, but I noticed that it was a differenbt look pretty quick. Also no numbness that I had with a prolonged gh use as of yet. I feel for the time I have been on this is definately better than gh!!

Whale

[Jergo]

When you guys say that it gives your muscles a sorta 3-dimensional look, is that due from the hyperplasia effects? If so, does the effect last after you go off it, or does it genetically alter the amount of muscle fibers for good?

[jjjd]

i am not sure IF the look has to do with the hyperplasia effect, but it is pretty well established that this stuff does work for creating hyperplasia. bearing that in mind (Wild Ass Semieducated Guess), i would think the hyperplasia is permanent. muscle cells, like fat cells, don't "go away".

the problem with getting fat is that you create NEW fat cells. what a b*tch. with Weight training otoh, you mostly hypertrophy existing cells and increase intracellular fluid, but (w.o IGF and other "supplements") you are likely to get very little hyperplasia. how much hyperplasia is possible WITHOUT IGF is hotly debated, but i think the general consensus is not much. jose antonio has done some work on this, iirc.

anyways, my (WASEG) is that those extra cells "hyperplas'd" into existence during IGF use don't "go away".

[Dwight Schrute]

Who knows but hyperplasia is permanent. Any gains from IGF-1 will be that way to.

[enash]

Wow these posts only make me more interested, as well as what I've been reading in general about this and other peptides. David Boston (San Diego Chargers and soon to be a Miami Dolphin) has been rumoured to be on it. He has tested clean 7 times for the league. And they claim to test for GH, so if they have their **** straight he's not on that. I have attached a picture of this guy because I follow football pretty closesly and have never seen a beast like this who can run a 4.3 forty. The guy is 250 and I don't know his body fat but it ain't much I'll tell you that. If IGF had anything to do with that, then I'm interested...

[gobig1]

Wow these posts only make me more interested, as well as what I've been reading in general about this and other peptides. David Boston (San Diego Chargers and soon to be a Miami Dolphin) has been rumoured to be on it. He has tested clean 7 times for the league. And they claim to test for GH, so if they have their **** straight he's not on that. I have attached a picture of this guy because I follow football pretty closesly and have never seen a beast like this who can run a 4.3 forty. The guy is 250 and I don't know his body fat but it ain't much I'll tell you that. If IGF had anything to do with that, then I'm interested...

Too bad he can't live up to his potential........Chargers would ROCK!

[enash]

He never got along with the Strenght and Conditioning coach in SD. They freak on him because he only hangs out with this trainer and monitors his blood constantly, does his own routines, and hides out in a hotel room on IV's listening to trance. He'll blow up down in Miami with my Fish though, trust me. They turned Ricky Wiliams around. Anyways this ain't a football board so I'll shut up. Point is he's a cut mofo.

[enash]

So you guys are leaning out and getting more cut, as well as getting a nice new look to your muscles. Are you losing any mass or weight in general, are you retaining any gains you have made?

[PC1]

I'm 10 days into a cycle of just L3 IGF 40 mcgs pwo days only, and am really enjoying it. Leaning out a bit, more fullness to muscle bellies, nice work out pumps, etc. Qualitative v quantitative gains. OVerall, these are more the kinds of gains I'm looking for.

I'll defer to more technically knowledgeable bro's like Bobo on this, but I would think the best way to use this compound would be as follows:

Use 20 mcgs a day pwo days at the start of at least an 8 week AS or PH cycle, and then immediately PCT start another 30 day regimen at 20 mcgs a day pwo (so in total, you'd only need (1) 1 ml vial).

I would think this would allow us to use lower doses of AS/PH but still enjoy the benefit of a two pronged approach so to speak........ creating both states of hypertrophy and hyperplasia.

AND starting the L3 IGF again PCT would help to keep more of the size obtained during cycle, but also build new additional muscle cells..... and effectively extending the anabolic period right through PCT..... and who wouldn't enjoy that?

Lower doses all around, reduced risks, etc.

One thing I've definitely noticed about just taking this stuff alone..... I just feel good! Good sense of well being, and I swear it seems to make he hornier as well? This might be a psychological factor due to just feeling better overall and being in my mid 40's. I know it isn't supposed to effect HPTA so I'm not sure how else to explain it.