IGF-1 Results from CJC-1295

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 06:37 PM

I just got back from the doctor. IGF-1 results 149ng/ml. Normal range is 106-255ng/ml. That is at 6mg e8d, plus I injected 1mg cjc-1295 and 300mcg ghrp-6 one-half hour before blood was drawn. Been on one month, started off at 2mg a week and increased dose to see if I could get HGH sides. You are definitely better off spending your money on HGH. It is too bad, I was hoping for better results.

papapumpsd · 10-23-2008, 06:52 PM

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I just got back from the doctor. IGF-1 results 149ng/ml. Normal range is 106-255ng/ml. That is at 6mg e8d, plus I injected 1mg cjc-1295 and 300mcg ghrp-6 one-half hour before blood was drawn. Been on one month, started off at 2mg a week and increased dose to see if I could get HGH sides. You are definitely better off spending your money on HGH. It is too bad, I was hoping for better results.

There are SO many flaws in the "logic" here it's unbelievable.

*sits back, kicks feet up and waits for Dat to go off the hook*.....*popped some popcorn too*

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 07:34 PM

So I guess you are going to tell me that after one month I should not have elevated igf-1 levels?

papapumpsd · 10-23-2008, 07:40 PM

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So I guess you are going to tell me that after one month I should not have elevated igf-1 levels?

What were your starting levels?

Bobaslaw · 10-23-2008, 07:46 PM

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So I guess you are going to tell me that after one month I should not have elevated igf-1 levels?

1) How can you determine what is elevated if you do not have a baseline control level?????

Do you have an IGF-1 reading before the protocol?

See, if your control reading is below normal, then 149mg/ml is elevated.

Example: My wife's IGF-1 reading is now 150ng/ml after using 2 iu of hGH. BUT! Here baseline levels were 72ng/ml... so....

2) Another point to look at if your baseline levels are within normal range would be the product you used. Do trust the product is what it should be, or it's quality, etc?

Pure speculation, but even if your control levels are below normal, I would still expect your dosages would raise your levels higher than 149ng/ml. So I believe that your stuff may be suspect.
I have seen IGF results of others on lower dosages of CJC who were in the 300+ range.
Like I said, without baseline levels or testing your product, who knows...

papapumpsd · 10-23-2008, 07:58 PM

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1) How can you determine what is elevated if you do not have a baseline control level?????

Do you have an IGF-1 reading before the protocol?

See, if your control reading is below normal, then 149mg/ml is elevated.

Example: My wife's IGF-1 reading is now 150ng/ml after using 2 iu of hGH. BUT! Here baseline levels were 72ng/ml... so....

2) Another point to look at if your baseline levels are within normal range would be the product you used. Do trust the product is what it should be, or it's quality, etc?

Pure speculation, but even if your levels are below normal, I would expect the dosages used to raise your levels higher than 149ng/ml. So I believe that your stuff may be suspect.
I have seen IGF results of others on lower dosages of CJC who were in teh 300+ range.
Like I said, without baseline levels or testing your product, who knows...

MMM HMMMMM......

sethroberts · 10-23-2008, 07:59 PM

unless you are trying to grow tumors, your plasma IGF-1 levels are virtually meaningless anyway.

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 08:10 PM

Baseline levels were 141. Maybe it was bunk. Respected supplier though.

papapumpsd · 10-23-2008, 08:11 PM

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Baseline levels were 141. Maybe it was bunk. Respected supplier though.

Did you get flushing after your CJC?

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 08:11 PM

I have contacted several pharm testing companies, but since the SRCS fiasco nobody is willing to test for individuals.

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 08:14 PM

Yes on the flushing/pressure. Especially when I initially started off with 2mg in one shot. Rather uncomfortable. Best sleep ever since beginning cjc.

Bobaslaw · 10-23-2008, 08:25 PM

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Baseline levels were 141. Maybe it was bunk. Respected supplier though.

8ng/ml is not considered significant and would be expected in normally fluctuating IGF-1 levels (+/-).

Given this information along with the dosages you are claiming you used, I DO NOT trust the product you were using from what I am hearing.

The fact is "real" CJC will raise your levels significantly at those dosages as seen in various clinical trials and numerous studies.

What I am concerned about is that you claim to have had the sides of flushing and such, so I am truly baffled at this point.

papapumpsd · 10-23-2008, 08:27 PM

See Dat's thread on CJC/GHRP and the 1st study in post #1, page 1

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 09:20 PM

This chart is what I was comparing to.

java568 · 10-23-2008, 10:00 PM

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This chart is what I was comparing to.

I find that chart extremely interesting. Why exactly is there almost no difference from 60mcg/kg to 150mcg/kg but a huge difference between 150mcg/kg and 250mcg/kg? DatBTrue every said anything about this? He's mentioned that he's messing with the doses and that CJC is definitely dose-dependent but what type of results would someone get from say 25mg/week?

chriswhat · 10-23-2008, 10:05 PM

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I find that chart extremely interesting. Why exactly is there almost no difference from 60mcg/kg to 150mcg/kg but a huge difference between 150mcg/kg and 250mcg/kg? DatBTrue every said anything about this? He's mentioned that he's messing with the doses and that CJC is definitely dose-dependent but what type of results would someone get from say 25mg/week?

Probably some bad-ass headaches. In one study I read there was basically no difference between 60mcg/kg and 90mcg/kg.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ull/91/12/4792

datBtrue · 10-24-2008, 08:10 AM