[bblankens]

At least you know now. What do you think 4 to 6 months before you start lifting? I'd guess more toward 6 but thats only a guess based on experience. Let us know man!

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by wophood

Fully ruptured. Yup, I said it. I got back the results from the MRI today, & I fully ruptured my tendon. My doc is suppose to call me early next week to schedule surgery and go through the specifics with me.

although I knew it already, im still sorry to hear it confirmed. but hey you will be fine, just a bit of work to do.

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by bblankens

At least you know now. What do you think 4 to 6 months before you start lifting? I'd guess more toward 6 but thats only a guess based on experience. Let us know man!

he will be able to resume light upperbody training 16 weeks post surgery. by 6 months will be back to heavy weights but should avoid heavy flat barbell bench/heavy dumbell fly/deep dips for good.

[wophood]

Originally Posted by bblankens

At least you know now. What do you think 4 to 6 months before you start lifting? I'd guess more toward 6 but thats only a guess based on experience. Let us know man!

I sure as hell hope not! Lol, I have to stick with Pum & say I'm hoping somewhere in the 3 month range. I'm building up my arsenal so that once the surgery is over, I can take the recovery process head on.

That's right gentlemen, I choose to look at this optimistically. I could wine like a little girly man, but it would get me nowhere. This is an opportunity the way I see it. I'm going to pound on my lower body like it's never been pounded before. Why? Because I can. Because I want to. That's why.

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by wophood

I sure as hell hope not! Lol, I have to stick with Pum & say I'm hoping somewhere in the 3 month range. I'm building up my arsenal so that once the surgery is over, I can take the recovery process head on.

That's right gentlemen, I choose to look at this optimistically. I could wine like a little girly man, but it would get me nowhere. This is an opportunity the way I see it. I'm going to pound on my lower body like it's never been pounded before. Why? Because I can. Because I want to. That's why.

thats the spirit bro. do like me, keep same bodymass throughout with a little loss on upper but bigger quads,hams and calves. then come back bigger and better than ever and be wiser for it.

[bblankens]

Wophood,

Talk with your doctor, he is your bestfriend right now. See how long he thinks you will be out of your "regular" weightlifting routine. For my Tricep tendon it was a true six months before my tricep was ready for a "normal or ruguar" routine as what I was doing before I was injured. Thats not to say I was doing rehab and light movements for that area with weight before the 6mo. mark. As far as my bicep tendon and rotator cuff it will be about 4months. But, the good news is I can do everything I could before. Heavy bench or anything I want to do as long as I rehabed right and give the injured area the time to heal. Go with what you doctor says. He will be right. It will take a while to get back to pre-injury state but patience and determinatin will help you greatly.

Keep us updated!

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by bblankens

Wophood,

Talk with your doctor, he is your bestfriend right now. See how long he thinks you will be out of your "regular" weightlifting routine. For my Tricep tendon it was a true six months before my tricep was ready for a "normal or ruguar" routine as what I was doing before I was injured. Thats not to say I was doing rehab and light movements for that area with weight before the 6mo. mark. As far as my bicep tendon and rotator cuff it will be about 4months. But, the good news is I can do everything I could before. Heavy bench or anything I want to do as long as I rehabed right and give the injured area the time to heal. Go with what you doctor says. He will be right. It will take a while to get back to pre-injury state but patience and determinatin will help you greatly.

Keep us updated!

yes you are right but i didnt pull the info out of my ass btw, ive been talking to several people with the same injury as us, both chronic(like me) and acute(like wophood) so I do know what im talking about.
for this type of tendon rupture, ALL surgeons would advise against movements(that I listed) which put the tendon under extreme stress.

[bblankens]

Chill out a lil bit. I didn't say anything about you or whether you were wrong or right??? I said listen to the doctor and that should be "his" doctor. Thats what's he is paying him for and that's what doctor specializes in and went to school for a number of years for. His ortho. knows way much more than you or me. There is no doubt about that because wophoods his patient. Don't get so worked up over nothing, this is wophoods thread.

By the way Wophood I"m speaking from my experience with my injuries and ortho. My ortho. did give me clearence to do pretty much anything and everything after proper time to heal and rehab but again this board is just for people to share experinces and advice. Your doctor should have the last word my friend. Again keep us updated as I am very interested in the study of indviduals and injuries. Thanks!

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by bblankens

Chill out a lil bit. I didn't say anything about you or whether you were wrong or right??? I said listen to the doctor and that should be "his" doctor. Thats what's he is paying him for and that's what doctor specializes in and went to school for a number of years for. His ortho. knows way much more than you or me. There is no doubt about that because wophoods his patient. Don't get so worked up over nothing, this is wophoods thread.

By the way Wophood I"m speaking from my experience with my injuries and ortho. My ortho. did give me clearence to do pretty much anything and everything after proper time to heal and rehab but again this board is just for people to share experinces and advice. Your doctor should have the last word my friend. Again keep us updated as I am very interested in the study of indviduals and injuries. Thanks!

but you also assume too much about doctors being right because of their training. i have come across many errors by doctors at work, they are not perfect.

also ive been in contact with one guy that had the same acute rupture repaired. its fair to say his Dr knew very little about correct rehab, they had him do physio from the 1st day post-op
in uncomfortable positions, even with his arm up behind his back.
oddly enough he had a retear at 4 months post-op. orthos are far from perfect, even many shoulder orthos have never re-attached a pectoral tendon.
im not being bigheaded when I say I know as much about this rehab as most orthos do.

oh and im very chilled my friend, im almost sliding out of the chair.

edit: heres the proof, the architect of this site is a supposed 'experienced' ortho. this rehab is SO SO wrong.
http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1&vi...=1dreyug866wj5

[bblankens]

You're right doctors can be wrong and I don't know how well woodhop knows his ortho. I am very cormfortable and confident with my ortho. I've had doctors in other areas of medicidne that I haven't felt comfortable with and didn't like how they did their job. I went to another doctor and got second opionions so no not every doctor or ortho. out there will know what they are doing or is as good as others so you have to be careful on that aspect. My doctor I am very confident with and have a great doc./patient relationship with. (my ortho. is a hand specialist and a general ortho. meaning he does pretty much everything).

Anyway thanks for being chilled! lol.

[pumbertot]

Originally Posted by bblankens

You're right doctors can be wrong and I don't know how well woodhop knows his ortho. I am very cormfortable and confident with my ortho. I've had doctors in other areas of medicidne that I haven't felt comfortable with and didn't like how they did their job. I went to another doctor and got second opionions so no not every doctor or ortho. out there will know what they are doing or is as good as others so you have to be careful on that aspect. My doctor I am very confident with and have a great doc./patient relationship with. (my ortho. is a hand specialist and a general ortho. meaning he does pretty much everything).

Anyway thanks for being chilled! lol.

lol. so you have ruptured both a biceps tendon and rotator cuff? how did those happen exactly? any warning signs beforehand or just sudden during a movement like us?

[bblankens]

Actually I fully ruptured my left tricep tendon in 06 and fully recovered. This past feb. of 08 I was simply doing dumbell shoulder presses and on my last set I was at rep number 3 and felt a tightness in my right shoulder, well being stuborn me and in a good grove i continued for a 4th rep. I felt a severe tightiness and pain in my shoulder. (no popping or ripping though). I had a dislocated long bicep tendon and a partially torn rotator cuff with a bone spur in my right shoulder. I myself had really never heard of a dislocated long bicep tendon. I've heard of a ruptured tendon or partially rupture tendon but not a dislocated bicep tendon. I am now very familiar with it. lol. It most likely would have eventually ruptured if left untreated though. The funny thing is the only way to fix it is to cut the tendon and suture or sew it back to the bone. No real warning signs for any of my injuries.

[wophood]

I have to admit, I've been to a few doctors who didn't exactly point me in the right direction. This isn't to say my ortho isn't completely & utterly right in every way... but in this scenario I don't think he is. I have faith in his work surgically, and believe there is nothing to worry about in that department. Although I also believe my goals for getting back in the game under the amount of time estimated by him (six months) are quite legitimate. Others who have had this similar injury (such as Pumbertot) seemed to of had great success with recovery times that are far less than what most doctors would predict. Call me crazy, but setting the bar a little high for one's self is never a bad thing in my opinion.

Originally Posted by bblankens

Actually I fully ruptured my left tricep tendon in 06 and fully recovered. This past feb. of 08 I was simply doing dumbell shoulder presses and on my last set I was at rep number 3 and felt a tightness in my right shoulder, well being stuborn me and in a good grove i continued for a 4th rep. I felt a severe tightiness and pain in my shoulder. (no popping or ripping though). I had a dislocated long bicep tendon and a partially torn rotator cuff with a bone spur in my right shoulder. I myself had really never heard of a dislocated long bicep tendon. I've heard of a ruptured tendon or partially rupture tendon but not a dislocated bicep tendon. I am now very familiar with it. lol. It most likely would have eventually ruptured if left untreated though. The funny thing is the only way to fix it is to cut the tendon and suture or sew it back to the bone. No real warning signs for any of my injuries.

Hell of a streak you've got going there bblankens. That's rough...

[bblankens]

Tendons take time to heal. But thats where the IGF-1 comes into play. Who really knows exactly to the month or day how long it will take off your recovery time. It most likely will help though. Just be careful, reinjury would be a bi$#%. Yeah the streak I have going is one I'd like to end!

[disgraziato]

Originally Posted by wophood

Fully ruptured. Yup, I said it. I got back the results from the MRI today, & I fully ruptured my tendon. My doc is suppose to call me early next week to schedule surgery and go through the specifics with me.

Hey bro-
Complete BILATERAL pectoralis major tendon rupture...yep...almost 1 year ago to the day I completely ruptured both sides of my pec tendons...doc said he had never seen that...the sound is what will stay with me forever the pop and snapping...especially simultaneously on both sides! LONG story short...had the surgery, was in a double sling for 4 flippin' weeks, and eventually started back training chest....plenty of igf and training and 1 year later, my strengths back, not my symmetry....Im doubtful I'll ever have the symmetry back who knows...will continue with the peptuides though.....

[wophood]

I spoke with my doctor this morning. As it turns out, he thinks enough of the tendon is still connected to not have to operate. However, he has given me the option to have the pec sewed back together and jazz. He doesn't believe there would be a big difference in strength recovery between letting it heal and getting the surgery. I don't know if he is accurate on this one or not. I'm not sure what to do guys, should I go ahead with the surgery?