[ozarkaBRAND]

I'm planning on getting 8mg of Hex, along with 20mg of Ghrp-6.. Now, for the first 50 days I'll be doing a 75/75 dose of Hex and Ghrp-6 twice daily, and then another 40 days with Ghrp-6 at around 300mcg per day.

I'm not too sure about cycle length with these particular peptides, so, any wisdom guys?

[ozarkaBRAND]

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[MentalTwitch]

OB there is so much here...you gotta search some bro, then get back at us wiht ideas and will be helpful.
Check out the thread Papa pointed to too with all the info color coordinated...

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by MentalTwitch

OB there is so much here...you gotta search some bro, then get back at us wiht ideas and will be helpful.
Check out the thread Papa pointed to too with all the info color coordinated...

I'm assuming you're talking about this link: Dat's - CJC-1295 & GHRP-6 (Basic Guides)

Ya dood, read, study, and understand this stuff that Dat put together. There's dosing in there too. Great read....will take a while to digest I think, but worth it (if you haven't done so already). Good luck!

-Papa!-

[ozarkaBRAND]

I checked out dat's thread, I see that I'm fine on the dosing side of things. However, I didn't see anything concerning length of cycle with these compounds. Did I just happen to overlook that part?

[MentalTwitch]

maybe not in there.
GHRP for was recomended only 11 or so weeks at a time i think just to keep it "active" and GHRP/6 may loose effectivness over period of time.

Others i do not know.

[ozarkaBRAND]

After reading through more of Dat's thread, I see that he does answer a lot of my questions in later posts. I also see that ghrp-6 + hex isn't the best idea since both operate under the same mechanism of action. Awesome stuff.

Thanks guys.

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND

After reading through more of Dat's thread, I see that he does answer a lot of my questions in later posts. I also see that ghrp-6 + hex isn't the best idea since both operate under the same mechanism of action. Awesome stuff.

Thanks guys.

Hell, don't thank us (me anyways!), thank DAT!

[datBtrue]

Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND

After reading through more of Dat's thread, I see that he does answer a lot of my questions in later posts. I also see that ghrp-6 + hex isn't the best idea since both operate under the same mechanism of action. Awesome stuff.

Thanks guys.

Growth Hormone Releasing Peptides (GHRPs) all act through a similiar mode of action. They are all very effective. The ones currently available to most include GHRP-6, GHRP-2 & Hexarelin.

The dosing is 100mcg to 400mcg. But keep in mind that would be for the highest purity of peptide. You should be able to mix and match between GHRPs as you planned.

Just remember that there is NO synergy from using two GHRPs at once. The values of the efficacy of each is only additive.

There is a lot of misunderstanding across the forums on these peptides. That is to be expected when the primary sources of information are Anthony Connors (aka Anthony Roberts), peptide sellers who posted "information" several years ago one of which sells a GHRP-6 antagonist and feedback from young people with unrealistic expectations.

There really is no need to cycle GHRP-6. The time off between doses (measured in hours) is sufficient to ward off desensitization. There is more concern IF you dose the more powerful peptide Hexarelin in the higher ranges. The studies indicate that it brings on desensitization. In the dosage range that you will run however that should not be a concern...there will be a several hour break between dosings which will be sufficient.

As for cycle length...personally I have been on GHRP-6 for a couple months now. Early on I took a one week break which I later confirmed was not needed. I plan on running some form of GH/GHS/GHRH every day until the summer of 2066...give or take a season or two.

[ozarkaBRAND]

That's good to hear Dat. I'll glady stay on for several months... heck, ghrp-6 is affordable enough to warrant that too, so right on!

[papapumpsd]

Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND

That's good to hear Dat. I'll glady stay on for several months... heck, ghrp-6 is affordable enough to warrant that too, so right on!

Very interesting, no doubt.

Dat, will you please comment on what users of GHRP-6 might expect in, for example, a 3 month run of this peptide (fat loss? lean mass gains? Improved sleep? etc.) Or, if a 3-month run is not long enough, please specify an appropriate length of time necessary for noticeable "gains"/"results".

I can make the assumption that GHRP-6 ultimately increases GH levels, so the results of GHRP-6 should reflect those of increased GH output. I am just unclear of what that is and if my assumption is in fact accurate.

I hope this isn't too rudimentary of a question!

EDIT: What I'm asking in a convoluted way is how much lean mass might users gain off of the above protocol for GHRP-6 (100-400mcg), based on your personal experience/research and others you have encountered?

EDIT 2: Furthermore, in your GHRP/GHRH guide, you state, "It is probably less then optimal but you could do well just dosing CJC-1295 twice per week and hit GHRP-6 two (2) to three (3) times a day."

What might a researcher expect in terms of fat loss and/or muscle gain (if any) after, say, a 3-month protocol of this? (I know this is off-topic from the thread title, but I think some insight into "bang for your buck" will greatly interest readers.


p.s., I'm still reading your GHRH/GHRH guide....just printed that beast off. Gosh I love color laser printers at work! HE HEEEE.

-Papa!-

[datBtrue]

A reasonable expectation would be...

...if you have your diet in order....which means that your carb sources will be low GI...that you will keep a 3 hour time period between eating anything but raw veggies/fiber (psyllium husks) & understand that low GI carbs\proper meal structure & GDAs are designed to reduce the time period when Insulin will be elevated...that you institute a cardio program (understanding that weight training burns few calories)...that you MUST keep you metabolism up and that keto diets are not optimal...that the majority of fat loss will come not from reducing calories so much as increasing the calories that you burn...if you know your body well...

...then increasing your nightly, morning & PWO pulses of GH release with 100mcg of GHRP-6 will more than double the amount of GH you would secrete within a 24 hour period naturally...which would amount to a low dose of GH...which very much will add to nutrient partitioning & lipolysis but only intermittent IGF-1 elevation...over the course of several months you could notice a reduction in your fat pad & mid section (fat loss pattern different then normal dieting...more of a youthful shape returning)...

...the older you are the more likely that the extra GH release will be of NOTICABLE benefit. The unscientific reason is that GHRPs help restore proper signaling which is a defect of aging not youth.

For myself pGH (Gaba & Gabob) use for several months improved my mood, gave me better sleep & one day after several months of use I noticed in the mirror that my mid-section was a little tighter then it had a right to be. That was because a little bump in GH went a long way in someone whose levels have declined.

Moving to GHRP-6 in place of pGH tripled the effect. Beautiful mood, energy, better conditioning...

HOWEVER adding GHRH (analog CJC-1295) to the mix greatly increased my GH levels. The amplitudes were presumably greater. Sleep was even deeper. Recovery from the gym was much better...my strength was greater...(connective tissue stronger)...GH-like lethargy...carpal tunnel type feeling at times...

...when I added it to a muscle building program which includes GH's companion hormone insulin as well as testosterone & an oral plus T3 I notice GH's contribution to anabolism almost on a daily basis.

There is a big difference between using a GHRP & combining it with CJC-1295.

The latter will give much better results especially for younger guys because NOW you are approximating the equivalent of a mid-level (w/ the ability to go mid-high) exogenic GH administration.

What does consistent GH use off-cycle and higher GH on cycle constructed as I indicated above do for you? Over the course of time it takes your body mass/composition/shape to a competitive level.

Originally Posted by papapumpsd

Very interesting, no doubt.

Dat, will you please comment on what users of GHRP-6 might expect in, for example, a 3 month run of this peptide (fat loss? lean mass gains? Improved sleep? etc.) Or, if a 3-month run is not long enough, please specify an appropriate length of time necessary for noticeable "gains"/"results".

I can make the assumption that GHRP-6 ultimately increases GH levels, so the results of GHRP-6 should reflect those of increased GH output. I am just unclear of what that is and if my assumption is in fact accurate.

I hope this isn't too rudimentary of a question!

EDIT: What I'm asking in a convoluted way is how much lean mass might users gain off of the above protocol for GHRP-6 (100-400mcg), based on your personal experience/research and others you have encountered?

EDIT 2: Furthermore, in your GHRP/GHRH guide, you state, "It is probably less then optimal but you could do well just dosing CJC-1295 twice per week and hit GHRP-6 two (2) to three (3) times a day."

What might a researcher expect in terms of fat loss and/or muscle gain (if any) after, say, a 3-month protocol of this? (I know this is off-topic from the thread title, but I think some insight into "bang for your buck" will greatly interest readers.


p.s., I'm still reading your GHRH/GHRH guide....just printed that beast off. Gosh I love color laser printers at work! HE HEEEE.

-Papa!-