[simon1982]

Ive never seen a log of anyone taking epistane while trying to cut. Would this be a good idea or no. Was just wondering if it might be good since it would help keep strength up while losing fat and dieting. Any response is appreciated.

[LakeMountD]

Definitely would be great for cutting. It isn't a specific leaning agent, but I always stay lean while taking it. What are you running with it?

[simon1982]

Well i was going to use MMV2 but the shutdown might be too much for me, i have a bottle of retain 2 by AX, what do you think about combining those 2?

[DAdams91982]

Originally Posted by simon1982

Well i was going to use MMV2 but the shutdown might be too much for me, i have a bottle of retain 2 by AX, what do you think about combining those 2?

Personally i would save the R2 for after the cycle itself since on cycle Cortisol isnt that much of an issue.

If grey area isnt an issue for you, I leaned out NICELY with a T4/EPI stack, but I am not advising that unless you have previous expierience with T4, or maybe something like Dicana.

Adams

[neoborn]

I can't post threads but I'm sure I have read where people have actually put on like 4lbs of muscle while dropping fat on this kind of cutting / epistane run.

Good luck!

[Ninjo]

Originally Posted by DAdams91982

If grey area isnt an issue for you, I leaned out NICELY with a T4/EPI stack, but I am not advising that unless you have previous expierience with T4, or maybe something like Dicana.

Adams

I was thinking about Epi with Gaspari's Thermogenic Thyrotabs (similar to Dicana, I think) would make a kick ass leaning out cycle. Either that or a halodrol clone with the TT. I'm a bit apprehensive about the lack of user feedback on the TT though.

[LakeMountD]

Yeah any thermogenic will do you some good. If you have never tried X-Force it is a great supplement for you to try and it is cheap. The nice thing about the geranium extract is its impact on norepi levels for a long time. It is also mild enough that you won't be jittery all day. Just split up your dosages, 1-2 in the morning and 1-2 afternoon if you are looking to lean.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by LakeMountD;

Yeah any thermogenic will do you some good. If you have never tried X-Force it is a great supplement for you to try and it is cheap. The nice thing about the geranium extract is its impact on norepi levels for a long time. It is also mild enough that you won't be jittery all day. Just split up your dosages, 1-2 in the morning and 1-2 afternoon if you are looking to lean.

Yep! Besides, the methylxanthines/caffeine in X-Force inhibit adenosine and phosphodiesterase (PDE), two compounds that breakdown norepinephrine. Consequently, these central nervous system stimulants, by inhibiting norepinephrine breakdown, support enhanced and prolonged thermogenesis.

[DAdams91982]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Yep! Besides, the methylxanthines/caffeine in X-Force inhibit adenosine and phosphodiesterase (PDE), two compounds that breakdown norepinephrine. Consequently, these central nervous system stimulants, by inhibiting norepinephrine breakdown, support enhanced and prolonged thermogenesis.

I swear Strat... Britannica aint got shlt on you!!!

Id rep you, but apparently it wont let me yet.

Adams

[mmowry]

He is a smart cookie!

[Grunt76]

I'm using X-Force at the moment and it is fantastic for cutting. I have to remind myself to eat. It suppresses my appetite like few other things ever have.