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Old 03-28-2006, 06:13 AM  
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IBE nolvadex unsafe?


I dont wanna jump the gun but something might be wrong with IBE's current nolvadex. iv taken it for the past two days and i am completley ****ed up. i have insomnia(and in mean severe insomnia. i havent gone to sleep yet and i am still jumping off the walls) my heart it beating weird and i am sweating. I took IBE's nolva last year and was fine. Did they mess up and give me clen instead.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:15 AM  
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are you giving your hampsters anything else? Maybe it is the expected outcome of the experiment keeping you up.

I do not know what type of lab animals you are using but here is a link regarding Nolvadex:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...di/202545.html
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:30 AM  
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Hmm, mine is working fine, but I am also giving some IGF which makes the critter sleep like a log.
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:47 AM  
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whatever it is, i def. stopping it. wats the half life on this stuff. i wonder wat would happen if i take some sleeping pills nows
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whatever it is, i def. stopping it. wats the half life on this stuff. i wonder wat would happen if i take some sleeping pills nows
Were you taking it for any particular reason?
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:34 AM  
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The side effects you describe sound more like the sides for Clen. I suppose it is possible a mislabeling occurred and Clen got labeled as Nolva. You should not be having any of these side effects from Nolva.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:12 AM  
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What does it taste like? I wouldn't know the difference but someone here might.
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Nolva tastes like rotten death, but clen doesn't taste so hot either.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:55 AM  
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Wow I would go to IBE's forum and ask there. IBE is a great company but that sh!t is scary. I am always worried about this happening every time I get a research chem. Hope it works out.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:46 AM  
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Definitely sounds like clen. How many mL did you take of what was in that bottle and how many times have you taken it so far?

Are you feeling jittery and/or hot? How long did these effects last. Lets try and narrow things down.
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How many mL's did you use?
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:56 AM  
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The side effects you describe sound more like the sides for Clen. I suppose it is possible a mislabeling occurred and Clen got labeled as Nolva. You should not be having any of these side effects from Nolva.
I agree sounds more like clen but who knows how different people react to different things.

I have been experimenting with IBE nolva off and on for 3 years and it has always been good for me.


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Wow this is scary. I tried their clen and i thought it was rather tasteless, at least compared to nolva. Nolva should have some serious bite with the citrus taste, clen tasted almost like water to me.
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:06 PM  
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He must have finally went to sleep.
Hey Bro, please give us an update when you know something.
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:33 PM  
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He must have finally went to sleep.
Hey Bro, please give us an update when you know something.
Yeah lets hope that is why is isn't responding. I hope he had the common sense to stop taking it.
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Old 03-28-2006, 01:05 PM  
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What does it taste like? I wouldn't know the difference but someone here might.
i cap it so im not sure wat it tastes like. i am taking for pct
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Old 03-28-2006, 01:07 PM  
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i went to sleep at 9am. finally. didnt last long though, woke up at 1pm. but i still have a headache and the sweats. i stopped taking it. before i was taking 40mg for two days. i just bought some tylenol pm for tonite.


the insomnia is weird. once i shut my eyes i start getting dizzy and i think at a mile a minute. i cant stop thinking. seems like my CNS is on crack
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What mg to ml is your clen?


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Old 03-28-2006, 01:21 PM  
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if it actually was clen that would be 200mcg. i hope its not clen
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Are you taking anything else at all?
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Old 03-28-2006, 01:33 PM  
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Are you taking anything else at all?
just x factor and retain for the past two days too. i highly doubt they have caused these side effects.

is there a way to tell if its clen. wat does clen taste like
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What strength is it mg/ml?


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What strength is it mg/ml?


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Old 03-28-2006, 02:14 PM  
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just x factor and retain for the past two days too. i highly doubt they have caused these side effects.

is there a way to tell if its clen. wat does clen taste like
Although I doubt this is the case some have experienced heart palpitations using retain. But I have a feeling your bottle was mislabeled.
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:47 PM  
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i went to sleep at 9am. finally. didnt last long though, woke up at 1pm. but i still have a headache and the sweats. i stopped taking it. before i was taking 40mg for two days. i just bought some tylenol pm for tonite.


the insomnia is weird. once i shut my eyes i start getting dizzy and i think at a mile a minute. i cant stop thinking. seems like my CNS is on crack
STOP TAKING IT! Regardless of whether you got mislabeled product for your lab animals or they are just having a bad reaction, the reported symptoms are NOT typical. If this is mislabeled clen and your lab animals are taking it at Nolva doses, they could experience SERIOUS health problems.
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I am scared to buy more nolva from IBE now
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:23 PM  
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Gotta be clen from what he says. Don't cap it. You need to taste a tiny bit.
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Old 03-28-2006, 04:42 PM  
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hi yanke,

read your side effects of the nolva.

so far this is the first for the nolvadex and i have no one else complaining not even on my board.

i think you're having isolated side effects. i wouldnt say it was mislabeled ibe is much more careful than that.

if it was clen you would be jittery and wouldn't stop moving.

are you taking anything else? any medications?

stop taking the nolva right now let me see if the sides wear off so i can gauge what might be wrong.

if i have to i will talk to the owners and send you another tamox and from another batch but stop taking it right now.
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hi yanke,

read your side effects of the nolva.

so far this is the first for the nolvadex and i have no one else complaining not even on my board.

i think you're having isolated side effects. i wouldnt say it was mislabeled ibe is much more careful than that.

if it was clen you would be jittery and wouldn't stop moving.

are you taking anything else? any medications?

stop taking the nolva right now let me see if the sides wear off so i can gauge what might be wrong.

if i have to i will talk to the owners and send you another tamox and from another batch but stop taking it right now.
He already posted all of those questions.
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The p-Tyramine in Retain may be the culprit.
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