EPI PCT Question

  1. EPI PCT Question


    Just finalizing my PCT and need advice, as I'm confused.

    Neoborn's Epistane FAQ states:
    "If you run your PCT for four weeks, as you ramp down on your SERM etc ramp up on your Formestane / AI so, to as keep your estrogen under control."

    Whereas, Nattydisaster's "Perfect PCT" states:

    "Week 1: Tamoxifene 40mg, IBE Formex 50mg, [Cycle Support]*
    Week 2: Tamoxifene 40mg, IBE Formex 50mg, [Cycle Support]
    Week 3: Tamoxifene 20mg, IBE Formex 25mg, [Cycle Support]
    Week 4: Tamoxifene 20mg, IBE Formex 25mg, [Cycle Support]"

    So Neoborn says to ramp up on Formex/AI as you reduce SERM, yet Natty's recommendation is to concurrently ramp down both SERM and AI.

    I've also read that E and cortisol are low right after running the EPI cycle, so AI and Cortisol control should be staggered until they rebound, which is more like week 3 of the PCT. This also seems to contradict the "Perfect PCT" recommendations, where Formex/AI starts high and ramps down over 4 weeks.

    Can you please set me straight on this stuff? The more I read, the more confusing it gets.

    Thanks in advance - very much.


  2. Can someone respond please? I was hoping that since I decided to give IBE products a try and have now bought some, that I could expect support from the IBE reps. With due respect (as you guys have helped me work through some issues in the recent past), it seems like I'm getting ignored lately.

    Thanks in advance.

  3. I ramp SERM down and ramp AIs as follows 25,50,50,25,25 I dont like the drastic cutoff aproach personally. I feel this gives your body a better chance at finding homeostasis.

    Unfortunately there is NO perfect pct to fit the masses. The best I can tell you is to try the approach that seems most sensible to you and give it a try. Good luck!


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6
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  4. So, assuming I am using Tamoxifen Citrate (SERM) and Formex (AI), what would that look like? Here is what I was planning until I read about the ramp up AI as you ramp down SERM:

    SERM -
    Week 1 - 40/40/20/20/20/20/20
    Week 2 - 20/every day
    week 3 - 10 every day
    week 4 - 10 every day

    AI -
    Week 1 - 50 mg/day
    Week 2 - 50 mg/day
    Week 3 - 25 mg/day
    Week 4 - 25 mg/day

    How would your suggestion revise this?

    Thanks again.

  5. Just run the Formex as I did in the other post and thats what Id go with.


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6

  6. Okay, I thought that's what you meant.

    Thanks very much - I really appreciate the help.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Hugo Danner View Post
    Okay, I thought that's what you meant.

    Thanks very much - I really appreciate the help.
    No problem!


    Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths . Proverbs 3:5-6
  

  
 

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