Thinking of trying Epistane.....

  1. Thinking of trying Epistane.....


    Im 26yrs old..5'7" 180lbs

    I was wondering if I follow the pulse routine they recommend do I need a PCT or do I need to take anything with it?? Kinda new to this compound so any help will be appreciated....my main goal is to increase strength...kinda been stuck in a rut for awhile. Thanks


  2. nobody has any idea??

  3. take something like cycle support for your liver, and you will want some form of pct though you'll likely get away with an OTC one...

    I'm sure someone more experienced will chime in with more soon
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  4. I would still take some AI Cycle Support. Better safe than sorry.

    I would still always try to find a real SERM for PCT. Yes, you should still run a PCT. It can only help. If you do not have access to Nolva, something like a natural test booster (tnt stack) and AI Post Cycle Support wouldn't be a bad option.
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  5. If you're looking for str - Try Methyl 1-d or Omnevol or Superdrol, I ran 2 cycles of epistane good strength increase, but its a mild anabolic remember that, you'll get the str increase but not till the 3rd fourth week where you're pratically finished.

    ANd yes you need some sort of Pct to prevent yourself from side effects as well as testicular atrophy which is a very high case scenario with Epi

    Pct + Tribulus tetterus + Yohimbe post cycle + Maybe some milk thistle as well for the liver + garlic / oatmeal ( for cholesterol )

  6. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I would still take some AI Cycle Support. Better safe than sorry.

    I would still always try to find a real SERM for PCT. Yes, you should still run a PCT. It can only help. If you do not have access to Nolva, something like a natural test booster (tnt stack) and AI Post Cycle Support wouldn't be a bad option.
    Agree on both recommendations. You want a serm to maintain the gains you make. And the liver/lipids/bp control is vital IMO.

  7. so 6-oxo can be a good stack with epi, or should it be used as PCT?

  8. U dont need 6oxo with Epi - Epi is an anti Estrogen as it is. (Aka Antiaromatizing) u could use that during pct but i'd get the Real Clomid / Nolvadex so u come back to normal

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MattRoeske View Post
    U dont need 6oxo with Epi - Epi is an anti Estrogen as it is. (Aka Antiaromatizing) u could use that during pct but i'd get the Real Clomid / Nolvadex so u come back to normal
    ok, but why is someone saying that Epi is an "steroid"? Is it because it hightens the testo that much?
    So there is no risk for bloating? Bloating is the main reason i was thinking of using 6-oxo with it, but i guess its not necessary

  10. Quote Originally Posted by LOVERIUS View Post
    ok, but why is someone saying that Epi is an "steroid"? Is it because it hightens the testo that much?
    So there is no risk for bloating? Bloating is the main reason i was thinking of using 6-oxo with it, but i guess its not necessary
    Because it IS a steroid! And No. it doesn't increase testo it decreases it. Bloating is probably not a big problem since its not really a wet compound. I would do some more research there bro or stick with the 6-oxo.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrZ View Post
    Because it IS a steroid! And No. it doesn't increase testo it decreases it. Bloating is probably not a big problem since its not really a wet compound. I would do some more research there bro or stick with the 6-oxo.

    Ok, if it decreases testo, what great benifits does it give? I read about it beeing good for gynomastia, but if you can help me i would appreciate it since i would like to try it now when cutting.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by LOVERIUS View Post
    Ok, if it decreases testo, what great benifits does it give? I read about it beeing good for gynomastia, but if you can help me i would appreciate it since i would like to try it now when cutting.
    All steroids decreases testo. The effects come from the substance you take not your own testosterone. I like epistane! No extreme gains but some people see some impressive gains on it even when pulsing it. For gyno its quite of a longshot if you ask me but the antiestrogen properties might be usefull on cycla anyway and MINIMIZE the risk of gyno. There is good writeups on epi so just search bro!

    Z

  13. thx bro, what do you think about running a PCT with 6-oxo or 11-oxo after epi?`is it good?

  14. I wouldnt use 11-oxo as PCT cause it's slightly suppressive. Why not stack them cause your cutting right? You might get away with 6-oxo for PCT but a SERM is your best bet in my oppinion. Maybe low dose clomid or nolva. If you have to do it OTC, resveratrol is you best option with the 6-oxo. And dont forget the basic support supps It is a methylated compound...

    Z

  15. It is a steroid, it is made up of one orally methalydated product.

    All prohomorones are basically "juice" in a pill form.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by MattRoeske View Post
    It is a steroid, it is made up of one orally methalydated product.

    All prohomorones are basically "juice" in a pill form.
    respect!

    I am on my first day on epi, 20mg starters, will up it to 30mg for the rest of the cycle. Then for pct i bought 6-oxo extreme, it has resveratrol in it also zma. perfect i think.
    Maybe i stack my epi with some 11-oxo.


    BTW: Does anyone know about how much more testo i am getting with Epistane? I know its supposed to work as an antiestrogen but still... Or is it more like proviron?

  17. Just because 6-oxo extreme has resveratrol doesn't mean you shouldn't get Reversitol. Reversitol has Indole-3-Carbinole among other things that make it necessary to take over 6-oxo

  18. Quote Originally Posted by LOVERIUS View Post
    ok, but why is someone saying that Epi is an "steroid"? Is it because it hightens the testo that much?
    So there is no risk for bloating? Bloating is the main reason i was thinking of using 6-oxo with it, but i guess its not necessary

    ROFL!!

  19. hey man what do i do after the 6 weeks is up and im out of epistane and im perfect just where im at ???????? just keep eatting healthy and working out and i will still have the fit body ????

  20. hey man i just got this epistane right and its working great but once im done using it and the 6 weeks is up what do i do just stop taking it and keep working out and eatting healthy and u still have a nice body. no side effects after 6 weeks right if i eat right and everything????? please help me out let me know what im getting me self into have u stopped using it and just owrked out normaly yet
    Last edited by chipmunk43; 02-06-2009 at 06:19 AM. Reason: addded info

  21. so after the 6 weeks was up you just kept working out and staying healthy or what ??? no side effects nothing but good in 6 weeks right ?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by chipmunk43 View Post
    hey man i just got this epistane right and its working great but once im done using it and the 6 weeks is up what do i do just stop taking it and keep working out and eatting healthy and u still have a nice body. no side effects after 6 weeks right if i eat right and everything????? please help me out let me know what im getting me self into have u stopped using it and just owrked out normaly yet
    Ummm, negative Ghost Rider.
    You will need to roll into a Post Cycle Therapy.
    Cycling this methylated Steroid for 6 weeks can, and probably will suppress your natural Testosterone production.
    How old are you?
    What is your dosage for your cycle?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by chipmunk43 View Post
    hey man i just got this epistane right and its working great but once im done using it and the 6 weeks is up what do i do just stop taking it and keep working out and eatting healthy and u still have a nice body. no side effects after 6 weeks right if i eat right and everything????? please help me out let me know what im getting me self into have u stopped using it and just owrked out normaly yet
    wait, you're taking epistane and will do a 6 week cycle and you dont know what to do at then of your cycle? do you know what you're getting yourself in to? you're setting yourself up for trouble if you'd ask me! You better do some good research on PCT to avoid shutdown and or gyno.
    how about providing some stats? how old are you? how long been lifting? whats your diet like?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by MDHawk View Post
    Wow.
    How?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by MDHawk View Post
    Wow.
    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    How?
    Now!


  26. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Now!

    Won! <-
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Won! <-
    <---- The real winner!

  28. I took Epistane end of last year, used cycle support and used iforce reversitol after and all worked out great for me. Epistane was my first ph and it was an awesome experience. Only problem I had was i couldn't get myself out of the freakin gym. I honestly couldn't tire myself out. I was there for 3-5 hours every day(sometimes longer) and I felt like I could still run a marathon after. Had no signs/symptoms of gyno. It wasn't an N.O. type energy feeling, it was a feeling of me never fatiguing no matter how hard I pushed myself. I really enjoyed using it and would definitely recommend it to others.

    oh and dude you're upper body looks pretty huge in that pic for being 180 pounds..you have little chicken legs or somethin'? :P
  

  
 

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