Lemme re-phrase.....
Do I NEED to do all this? ( from poopy's log)
Week Epistane/Cissus/Poseidon/Mass Fx/Powerfull/Toremifene/HDX2/CEE/AEE/CitMalate
120mg(10mg 2x 5days)/30mg(10mg morn/20mg p.w.o 2days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)
230mg(10mg am/10mg pwo/10mg pm for 3 days)40mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o for 4 days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
340mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
440mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)/2 caps(530mg 2x for 5 days)/4 caps(spread out for 3 days)/120mg (LAST DAY ONLY)
5120mg(1days)/90mg(5days)/75mg(1day)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
675mg(5days)/60mg(2days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
760mg/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
830mg(till it was out, like 3 days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x until out)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
-OR- could I survive with ZMA and reversitol (i-force)? I was thinking something different in the first post when I put in AX's aPCT, but whatev's....
lol how come that looks familiar??? :think:
NO you dont
NEED all of that.... BUT you will be able to fully recover AND most likely continue to gain with all that... I obviously did. Added 5lbs during that PCT after gaining 13.5 with Epi and kept all of it continuing to gain for a couple months after too till I lost my job and will to hit the gym...
Id not leave out the essentials though; Toremifene(or SERM of choice), Hyperdrol-X2(or AI of choice, ie aPCT, 6-OXO ect), and Mass FX maximum strength (or test booster of choice, ie Drive<-- highly suggested, Stoked ect). and Creatine mono(which is so cheap its ridiculous)
Powerfull, Cissus, Poseidon, Cit malate and an Arginine (AAKG or AEE) are all optional BUT will really make a difference in the gym and helping to sustain gains and make everything else above that much better.
Anabolic Pump, Pslin(more so then AP) and Prime are all highly suggested as well given their synergy and ability to make cycle like gains with those alone as well and would definately make for a pleasing PCT.
Im about to run an Epi cycle come very soon and this will be my PCT......
Toremifene
Formestane
Drive
Prime
P-slin
Creatine Monohydrate or Gluconate
AAKG
Beta Alanine
Cit malate
1-Carboxy or L-Dopa
Cissus
I3C
Mega dosed BCAA
Reverse
A lil more then the first one even.... but will be well worth it I know... prob wont even feel like coming off. :head:
Obviously Im one for the More is MORE concept through PCT, not less is more.... The way I look at it is why A) leave anything to chance on getting unwanted sides in PCT B) why lose strength and muscle gains in PCT and C) why risk wether or not Im actually fully recovered after a weak PCT which will undoubtedly leave me with sides within the coming months of natty/no supplementation.
The faster you recover(thanks to hormone/HTPA support compounds; Toremifene, Formestane, I3C and Drive) the easier it will be to retain gains and the more workout support supps you have (ie Pslin, Creatine, AAKG, BA, CM and also Prime/Drive) the more likely you are to maintain strength gains... alot harder to hold onto IMO then the muscle itself. Lastly its nice to have the supps to speed recovery since you no longer have anabolics doing the job(BCAA, Reverse, 1-Carboxy, Cissus, and again Prime).
Great to cover EVERY aspect from EVERY angle... some may call it over kill BUT those guys also arent gaining through PCT like I am..... what will be your choice?
Disclaimer: Poopies PCT regimen will drain your wallet if your not a smart shopper(BUY IN BULK!!!!!).... but more important then ANYTHING is if your
diet,
routine and
sleep arent adequate NONE of this supplementation OR cycle will be worth a DAMN and be money, time and hard earned gains flushed down the toilet, literally.