Prolactin from epi?

  1. New Member
    jns's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    88
    Level
    3
    Lv. Percent
    82%

    Prolactin from epi?


    I have been reseraching this for a bit, but have not gotten any satisfying answer.

    Is prolactin issues possible while on Epi?

    Etsrogen should not be a problem on cycle, due to the anti-e properties of Epi, so a solid PCT should take care of any E-related issues after the cycle. But Prolactin issues on cycle is a B#%h!

  2. Professional Member
    neoborn's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    4,406
    Rep Power
    2362
    Level
    45
    Lv. Percent
    47.1%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    From what I understand and have read, prolactin issues are more relative to S-Drol and Phera no?
  3. New Member
    jns's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    88
    Level
    3
    Lv. Percent
    82%

    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    From what I understand and have read, prolactin issues are more relative to S-Drol and Phera no?
    From what I have read, most of the prolactin related issues are linked to Progestines.

    It seems to be very common with compounds like S-drol and Trenadrol! I have also read that it is possible with Phera, even though I have not read any reports on it.

    Have you ever heard of gyno symtomps ON cycle with epi?
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    OpKang101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    166
    Rep Power
    167
    Level
    11
    Lv. Percent
    8.55%

    Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    From what I have read, most of the prolactin related issues are linked to Progestines.

    It seems to be very common with compounds like S-drol and Trenadrol! I have also read that it is possible with Phera, even though I have not read any reports on it.

    Have you ever heard of gyno symtomps ON cycle with epi?
    my friend actually had a slight flare up of his right nipple during a epi cycle (when i was dosed at 30-40 mg)

    it subsided but it shows that
    epi can induce gyno (whether its from increased prolactin-progesterone, or increased estrogen which im not sure which one)
  5. New Member
    bb4life's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  255 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Age
    27
    Posts
    404
    Rep Power
    288
    Level
    16
    Lv. Percent
    59.03%

    my gyno flared up after my second week at 20mg....
  6. New Member
    jns's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    88
    Level
    3
    Lv. Percent
    82%

    Quote Originally Posted by bb4life View Post
    my gyno flared up after my second week at 20mg....
    ****, now you made me nervous=)

    Did you have any sucess getting rid of it? I suppose you discontinued the cycle? Did you use Nolva to treat it?

    I was hoping that Epi would still have its Ati-E properties even though it is methylated.
  7. New Member
    bb4life's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  255 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Age
    27
    Posts
    404
    Rep Power
    288
    Level
    16
    Lv. Percent
    59.03%

    Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    ****, now you made me nervous=)

    Did you have any sucess getting rid of it? I suppose you discontinued the cycle? Did you use Nolva to treat it?

    I was hoping that Epi would still have its Ati-E properties even though it is methylated.
    From everything I've read.... I'm the only person that has had a flare up at that dosage.... there may be others that have had the same i just haven't seen or read about them. usually when people jump to 30mg is when they get some flare up if any at all.... During my pct it did go down some but is def still there and will have to be removed when i can afford it.......
  8. New Member
    jns's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    88
    Level
    3
    Lv. Percent
    82%

    Quote Originally Posted by bb4life View Post
    From everything I've read.... I'm the only person that has had a flare up at that dosage.... there may be others that have had the same i just haven't seen or read about them. usually when people jump to 30mg is when they get some flare up if any at all.... During my pct it did go down some but is def still there and will have to be removed when i can afford it.......
    That bad huh?

    Was it Epistane, Havoc or a clone that you used? If Epistane, was it the can with the black or white hat? I know there has been some complaints about the batch with the black hat.
  9. New Member
    xtyler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    125
    Rep Power
    151
    Level
    9
    Lv. Percent
    57.44%

    All theese prolactin-related sides were almost inesistent when people used to run real roids...I wonder why. Too much guys playing with their nipples in the DS era?
  10. New Member
    jns's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    88
    Level
    3
    Lv. Percent
    82%

    Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    All theese prolactin-related sides were almost inesistent when people used to run real roids...I wonder why. Too much guys playing with their nipples in the DS era?
    Actually gyno seems to be quite uncommon with Epi, and from what I can understand prolactin should not be an issue.

    But many of the now banned, and some of the still available compounds were/are progestines. And progestines can and probably will raise prolactin.

    Real roids are more research and you know what to expect from those compounds.
  11. New Member
    bb4life's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"  255 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Age
    27
    Posts
    404
    Rep Power
    288
    Level
    16
    Lv. Percent
    59.03%

    Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    That bad huh?

    Was it Epistane, Havoc or a clone that you used? If Epistane, was it the can with the black or white hat? I know there has been some complaints about the batch with the black hat.
    epistane and black i think
  12. New Member
    hituw2x4's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Age
    28
    Posts
    33
    Rep Power
    142
    Level
    5
    Lv. Percent
    33.9%

    I actually have had the same thing happen to me taking Juggernaut E-Max Pulsed. I had a slight case of gyno from a Mdrol cycle a while back, back in January, but only in my left nip. Now my right tit is flaring up it's a bit puffy and sore to the touch. I think it is prolactin related because if i squeeze them real hard some clear liquid will come out only a little bit though hardly noticeable. Either way I hate gyno so I ended the cycle and started taking b6 and torem hopefully ill be okay.
  13. Banned
    poopypants's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    9,204
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    60
    Lv. Percent
    68.85%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    I actually experienced a reduction in size of my pre-existing gyno and a complete diminishment of any pain/sensitivity. Check my log in the link in my sig below. many before pictures on the first page or two and a complete overview and pictures from the cycle on page 14 bout half way down as well.

    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.
  14. Senior Member
    AnonyMoose's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  256 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    1,337
    Rep Power
    771
    Level
    27
    Lv. Percent
    66.16%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    sub'd
  15. crazyfool405's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    7,430
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    55
    Lv. Percent
    20.55%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    I actually experienced a reduction in size of my pre-existing gyno and a complete diminishment of any pain/sensitivity. Check my log in the link in my sig below. many before pictures on the first page or two and a complete overview and pictures from the cycle on page 14 bout half way down as well.

    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.
    Ldopa and chaste berry aswell
  16. Banned
    poopypants's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    9,204
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    60
    Lv. Percent
    68.85%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    Ldopa and chaste berry aswell
    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.
    Powerfull contains L-dopa (1-carboxy)
  17. crazyfool405's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  198 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    7,430
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    55
    Lv. Percent
    20.55%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Powerfull contains L-dopa (1-carboxy)
    learn something new everyday! thanks for that info
  18. Board Sponsor
    DAdams91982's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Age
    32
    Posts
    7,473
    Rep Power
    997457
    Level
    64
    Lv. Percent
    14.61%
    Achievements Activity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Also, Progestin can do nothing to gyno without the presence of estrogen. If Epi doesnt reduce estrogen enough to avoid gyno, then you can add in a low dose suicide inhibitor as well.

    Adams
    The Historic PES Legend
  19. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,330
    Rep Power
    3607565
    Level
    84
    Lv. Percent
    14.39%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProActivity VeteranPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    I have been reseraching this for a bit, but have not gotten any satisfying answer.

    Is prolactin issues possible while on Epi?

    Etsrogen should not be a problem on cycle, due to the anti-e properties of Epi, so a solid PCT should take care of any E-related issues after the cycle. But Prolactin issues on cycle is a B#%h!
    Damn this thread is giving me a major headache. I could sit here and write about two pages on how epistane doesn't have any effect on "prolactin gyno", how "prolactin gyno" is actually caused, and what hormones/compounds will have an effect on this. Maybe later I'll give a good rant. But to answer your question in one word...

    NO.

    Natty
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  20. Professional Member
    Rugger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,060
    Rep Power
    4771
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    64.92%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    My prolactin levels went up from epi
  21. Banned
    poopypants's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    9,204
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    60
    Lv. Percent
    68.85%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    I find that hard to believe... you got tested?

    Did it go up in actuality or comparatively to your other hormone levels?

    You take ANY other supplements before or at the same time as Epi? when in comparison to your epi run exactly were the tests ran? Post cycle? post PCT? mid cycle? All these questions would have their own factors that could be attributed to something else..... LMK the answers and Im sure youll see that its not from the Epi whatsoever.
  22. Professional Member
    Rugger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,060
    Rep Power
    4771
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    64.92%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    I took pcs
    activate ex
    lean ex
    nolva 20/20/10
  23. Banned
    poopypants's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  200 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Age
    30
    Posts
    9,204
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    60
    Lv. Percent
    68.85%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    when was the blood drawn? when did you find out you had high Prolactin levels?
  24. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,330
    Rep Power
    3607565
    Level
    84
    Lv. Percent
    14.39%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProActivity VeteranPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    My prolactin levels went up from epi
    Your prolactin can fluctuate greatly from a lot of things. Something like an orgasim can make your levels go very high and then slowly drop back down. Also, a lot of people call it "prolactin gyno" but high levels of prolactin itself doesn't cause gyno. If that was the case all the male pornstars who are having an orgasim 3-4 times a day would have some nasty gyno
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  25. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,330
    Rep Power
    3607565
    Level
    84
    Lv. Percent
    14.39%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProActivity VeteranPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    I find that hard to believe... you got tested?

    Did it go up in actuality or comparatively to your other hormone levels?

    You take ANY other supplements before or at the same time as Epi? when in comparison to your epi run exactly were the tests ran? Post cycle? post PCT? mid cycle? All these questions would have their own factors that could be attributed to something else..... LMK the answers and Im sure youll see that its not from the Epi whatsoever.
    Exactly...it's impossible. People just don't understand the mechanism of most prohormones/steroids or even the hormones occurring naturally in their body.
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Prolactin Sides with Low Prolactin Levels?!?
    By Jarred28 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-07-2013, 04:58 AM
  2. IS IT PROLACTIN?
    By jbray in forum Supplements
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 02-22-2010, 01:04 PM
  3. prolactin
    By jart45 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 02-10-2010, 11:11 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in