Prolactin from epi?

  1. Prolactin from epi?


    I have been reseraching this for a bit, but have not gotten any satisfying answer.

    Is prolactin issues possible while on Epi?

    Etsrogen should not be a problem on cycle, due to the anti-e properties of Epi, so a solid PCT should take care of any E-related issues after the cycle. But Prolactin issues on cycle is a B#%h!


  2. From what I understand and have read, prolactin issues are more relative to S-Drol and Phera no?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    From what I understand and have read, prolactin issues are more relative to S-Drol and Phera no?
    From what I have read, most of the prolactin related issues are linked to Progestines.

    It seems to be very common with compounds like S-drol and Trenadrol! I have also read that it is possible with Phera, even though I have not read any reports on it.

    Have you ever heard of gyno symtomps ON cycle with epi?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    From what I have read, most of the prolactin related issues are linked to Progestines.

    It seems to be very common with compounds like S-drol and Trenadrol! I have also read that it is possible with Phera, even though I have not read any reports on it.

    Have you ever heard of gyno symtomps ON cycle with epi?
    my friend actually had a slight flare up of his right nipple during a epi cycle (when i was dosed at 30-40 mg)

    it subsided but it shows that
    epi can induce gyno (whether its from increased prolactin-progesterone, or increased estrogen which im not sure which one)

  5. my gyno flared up after my second week at 20mg....

  6. Quote Originally Posted by bb4life View Post
    my gyno flared up after my second week at 20mg....
    ****, now you made me nervous=)

    Did you have any sucess getting rid of it? I suppose you discontinued the cycle? Did you use Nolva to treat it?

    I was hoping that Epi would still have its Ati-E properties even though it is methylated.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    ****, now you made me nervous=)

    Did you have any sucess getting rid of it? I suppose you discontinued the cycle? Did you use Nolva to treat it?

    I was hoping that Epi would still have its Ati-E properties even though it is methylated.
    From everything I've read.... I'm the only person that has had a flare up at that dosage.... there may be others that have had the same i just haven't seen or read about them. usually when people jump to 30mg is when they get some flare up if any at all.... During my pct it did go down some but is def still there and will have to be removed when i can afford it.......

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bb4life View Post
    From everything I've read.... I'm the only person that has had a flare up at that dosage.... there may be others that have had the same i just haven't seen or read about them. usually when people jump to 30mg is when they get some flare up if any at all.... During my pct it did go down some but is def still there and will have to be removed when i can afford it.......
    That bad huh?

    Was it Epistane, Havoc or a clone that you used? If Epistane, was it the can with the black or white hat? I know there has been some complaints about the batch with the black hat.

  9. All theese prolactin-related sides were almost inesistent when people used to run real roids...I wonder why. Too much guys playing with their nipples in the DS era?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    All theese prolactin-related sides were almost inesistent when people used to run real roids...I wonder why. Too much guys playing with their nipples in the DS era?
    Actually gyno seems to be quite uncommon with Epi, and from what I can understand prolactin should not be an issue.

    But many of the now banned, and some of the still available compounds were/are progestines. And progestines can and probably will raise prolactin.

    Real roids are more research and you know what to expect from those compounds.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    That bad huh?

    Was it Epistane, Havoc or a clone that you used? If Epistane, was it the can with the black or white hat? I know there has been some complaints about the batch with the black hat.
    epistane and black i think

  12. I actually have had the same thing happen to me taking Juggernaut E-Max Pulsed. I had a slight case of gyno from a Mdrol cycle a while back, back in January, but only in my left nip. Now my right tit is flaring up it's a bit puffy and sore to the touch. I think it is prolactin related because if i squeeze them real hard some clear liquid will come out only a little bit though hardly noticeable. Either way I hate gyno so I ended the cycle and started taking b6 and torem hopefully ill be okay.

  13. I actually experienced a reduction in size of my pre-existing gyno and a complete diminishment of any pain/sensitivity. Check my log in the link in my sig below. many before pictures on the first page or two and a complete overview and pictures from the cycle on page 14 bout half way down as well.

    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    I actually experienced a reduction in size of my pre-existing gyno and a complete diminishment of any pain/sensitivity. Check my log in the link in my sig below. many before pictures on the first page or two and a complete overview and pictures from the cycle on page 14 bout half way down as well.

    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.
    Ldopa and chaste berry aswell

  15. Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    Ldopa and chaste berry aswell
    If prolactin is normally an issue for you any ways better safe then sorry take some B6 and maybe even some powerfull and youll be set.
    Powerfull contains L-dopa (1-carboxy)

  16. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Powerfull contains L-dopa (1-carboxy)
    learn something new everyday! thanks for that info

  17. Also, Progestin can do nothing to gyno without the presence of estrogen. If Epi doesnt reduce estrogen enough to avoid gyno, then you can add in a low dose suicide inhibitor as well.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    I have been reseraching this for a bit, but have not gotten any satisfying answer.

    Is prolactin issues possible while on Epi?

    Etsrogen should not be a problem on cycle, due to the anti-e properties of Epi, so a solid PCT should take care of any E-related issues after the cycle. But Prolactin issues on cycle is a B#%h!
    Damn this thread is giving me a major headache. I could sit here and write about two pages on how epistane doesn't have any effect on "prolactin gyno", how "prolactin gyno" is actually caused, and what hormones/compounds will have an effect on this. Maybe later I'll give a good rant. But to answer your question in one word...

    NO.

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  19. My prolactin levels went up from epi

  20. I find that hard to believe... you got tested?

    Did it go up in actuality or comparatively to your other hormone levels?

    You take ANY other supplements before or at the same time as Epi? when in comparison to your epi run exactly were the tests ran? Post cycle? post PCT? mid cycle? All these questions would have their own factors that could be attributed to something else..... LMK the answers and Im sure youll see that its not from the Epi whatsoever.

  21. I took pcs
    activate ex
    lean ex
    nolva 20/20/10

  22. when was the blood drawn? when did you find out you had high Prolactin levels?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    My prolactin levels went up from epi
    Your prolactin can fluctuate greatly from a lot of things. Something like an orgasim can make your levels go very high and then slowly drop back down. Also, a lot of people call it "prolactin gyno" but high levels of prolactin itself doesn't cause gyno. If that was the case all the male pornstars who are having an orgasim 3-4 times a day would have some nasty gyno
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    I find that hard to believe... you got tested?

    Did it go up in actuality or comparatively to your other hormone levels?

    You take ANY other supplements before or at the same time as Epi? when in comparison to your epi run exactly were the tests ran? Post cycle? post PCT? mid cycle? All these questions would have their own factors that could be attributed to something else..... LMK the answers and Im sure youll see that its not from the Epi whatsoever.
    Exactly...it's impossible. People just don't understand the mechanism of most prohormones/steroids or even the hormones occurring naturally in their body.
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