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First time with epistane

jezzab05

jezzab05

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I've decided to use Epistane, and am building up the vitals to go with the cycle. Still not sure weather to pulse or run straight through though.

I have 1 bottle of Epi on order, and just enquiring about any other support I should use for when I finish the cycle.

Here is what I was planning for after support:

Milk Thistle (should i run this through? )
Cod liver oil
ZMA
Tribulus
Creatine


I'm just wondering about the difficulty of obtaining a SERM.

If I pulse, what dosages would you recommend, and would a SERM be required?

For a full cycle a SERM would be required, and what dosages would you recommend for this?
 
jezzab05 said:
I've decided to use Epistane, and am building up the vitals to go with the cycle. Still not sure weather to pulse or run straight through though.

I have 1 bottle of Epi on order, and just enquiring about any other support I should use for when I finish the cycle.

Here is what I was planning for after support:

Milk Thistle (should i run this through? )
Cod liver oil
ZMA
Tribulus
Creatine


I'm just wondering about the difficulty of obtaining a SERM.

If I pulse, what dosages would you recommend, and would a SERM be required?

For a full cycle a SERM would be required, and what dosages would you recommend for this?
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After reading this (Invalid Link Removed) I wonder about the need for a SERM unless you're predisposed to react badly to steroids.
 
Well if you want to keep your gains and keep those odds to a minimium USE A SERM


Once you realize you react badly to hormone fluctuations its an uphill battle all the way.
 
jezzab05 said:
Here is what I was planning for after support:

Milk Thistle (should i run this through? )
Cod liver oil
ZMA
Tribulus
Creatine


I'm just wondering about the difficulty of obtaining a SERM.

If I pulse, what dosages would you recommend, and would a SERM be required?

For a full cycle a SERM would be required, and what dosages would you recommend for this?
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I believe that Milk Thistle can be run the whole cycle on a non pulse ED cycle yes, when you get into pulsing you want to be careful because you could be clearing the active out of the liver before it gets a chance to actually take full effect. I believe Dr.D recommended NAC ( N-Acetyl-Cysteine ) or SAMe for off day pulse cycle use. With an ED regular cycle you should be fine with the Milk Thistle. I would also recommend Cycle Support or something similar as these products seem to have all the PCT bases covered in relation to liver health / recovery / repair etc.

As far as a SERM is concerned you have a couple options that are recommended:

1. Torimefene

2. Nolvadex

Both can be found on the internet if you get Innovative with your Research for your lab rat experiments.

Dosages:

PCT Toremifene Citrate
week 4: 120mg for 3 first days then 90
week 5: 60mg
week 6: 30mg

or something similar

Nolvadex:

Not sure on this one perhaps search the board or wait for someone who has more knowledge in this area! Check the Post Cycle Therapy Area on this forum:

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and good link:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/66113-no-excuses-no.html

Much Love,

Neoborn
 
cheers neoborn, you are a * ;)

epi came through yesterday with my leviathan. Preparing my epi stuff over the next few weeks, whilst im enjoying my BAM and Levi.

thanks for the input all.
 
after getting innovative with my googling, i find i cant seem to get the torm to the uk, so i'll have to deal with the clomid or the nolva. shame, but cheaper i guess.
 
Kiwi, I may be incorrect but I think you should remove that address and deal with people through email. Read the rules, for I believe that would be classified as "sourcing" a board no no. Maybe a Mod can chime in and clarify for me.

Good question though, maybe try and find other brits on the board. I'm one but living in Canadia :D

Much Love,

Neoborn.
 
Well, testing epi today. 1 cap to see what its like. hope i like it otherwise i got two bottles for sale
 
You should follow a the "Epistane FAQ" for standard protocol. Follow the pulsing guidelines if that is what you are doing 10/20/30/40. Depending on your dosing you should feel the effects anywhere from day 3 - day 14.

Hope this helps,

Much love,

Neoborn
 
I'm back to questioning some of our serm logic.. trying to restart htpa in 3-5 days by taking high doses of nolva seems to be as likely to do other damage as help. I mean after all the shudown occurred after weeks, trying to spike it up fast seems wrong. Theres some studies that show that 10mg is enough, i'll have to look for the links again. just pondering this, not suggesting you do that necessarily. Remember tho that SERMS are pretty recent history stuff, juice has been around a LOT longer than SERMs
 
SERM is great or best kept gains and putting the body back to normal but there are as many varied uses of SERMS as there are cycles of steroids. I mainly keep mine on hand to keep any gyno symptoms at bay. I use other products for health recovery.
 
RMS80 mentioned that Drive has the ability or some tendencies to restore the HPTA naturally. Either that or they are coming out with a product that will attempt that....

Don't quote me but I can find it if you push me hard enough :D...

Much love,

Neoborn
 
EasyEJL said:
I'm back to questioning some of our serm logic.. trying to restart htpa in 3-5 days by taking high doses of nolva seems to be as likely to do other damage as help. I mean after all the shudown occurred after weeks, trying to spike it up fast seems wrong. Theres some studies that show that 10mg is enough, i'll have to look for the links again. just pondering this, not suggesting you do that necessarily. Remember tho that SERMS are pretty recent history stuff, juice has been around a LOT longer than SERMs
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Good posting. :cheers:
 
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