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UNCfan1

UNCfan1

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Ok IBE guys help me make up my mind on how to use this product.

I am fairly experienced with PH's. I have 3 cycles under my belt.

Here are my options:

Pulse Epi and Ergo Max for 8 weeks

Standalone for 4-6 weeks.

Mega TRn/Epi 4 weeks

Whatever I do I want to hit 40mg or more for 2 weeks. Seeing that maybe the sweet spot is 40mg for this product

6'4
245lbs

Thanks
Mike
 
Epi 30-40mg/day and pulse either or on training days.I just started an Epi ,Genetic Edge SD(pulsed) cycle and am loving it so far.
 
mmowry said:
Epi 30-40mg/day and pulse either or on training days.I just started an Epi ,Genetic Edge superdrol(pulsed) cycle and am loving it so far.
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I was going to PM u to see if u started yet. I think I will pulse Epi/Ergo. Damn I want to start now lol. I will be testing the ActivaTe Xtreme so that should by me some time.
 
I'd go the the epi/trn combo, that should be some excellent strength gains and fatloss.
 
CHAPS said:
I'd go the the epi/trn combo, that should be some excellent strength gains and fatloss.
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I was thinking about that today.

I want to run a reg cycle again but pulsing is still an option.

This is the plan for a reg cycle.

TRN- 6mg for 4 weeks
Epi- 20, 30, 40, 40 and if I feel ballsy 50 for week 5. Most likely will stick to 4 weeks.

What do u guys think? Or how about 30, 40, 40, 40/50? I know 30 is alot to start off.
 
Youre a big boy 30 should be fine to start.You may be able to run for 4wks @30mg before you need to bump.Oh and Ill follow!
 
mmowry said:
Epi 30-40mg/day and pulse either or on training days.I just started an Epi ,Genetic Edge superdrol(pulsed) cycle and am loving it so far.
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are you pulsing BOTH? and at what dosing? I was gonna pulse jsut the SD at 40mgs on workout days.............
 
UNCfan1 said:
I was thinking about that today.

I want to run a reg cycle again but pulsing is still an option.

This is the plan for a reg cycle.

TRN- 6mg for 4 weeks
Epi- 20, 30, 40, 40 and if I feel ballsy 50 for week 5. Most likely will stick to 4 weeks.

What do u guys think? Or how about 30, 40, 40, 40/50? I know 30 is alot to start off.
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d syas you should increase after each 2 weeks (your body gets used to the dosing) I think 50mgs is where its at, but that is when you start to get the sides.............(hairloss, some pumps, ACNE, etc....)
 
Thanks guys. After I run the ActivaTe Xtreme for 20 days I am going to hit up this Epi. EST is coming out with a reformulated Methy Mass with Propadrol in it. Hopefully I can test it and use these together. I prob run the TRN with it. 6mg for it.

Mace, do u have enough crowns lol.

Edit: Maybe not the methyl mass. If it still has the methyl bol I won't run it.
 
macedaddy said:
are you pulsing BOTH? and at what dosing? I was gonna pulse jsut the superdrol at 40mgs on workout days.............
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No

Epi = straight cycle: 30-40mg/day

Genetic S D = pulsed :20-30mg/training day
 
Ok guys this is what I am going to do.

Epi- 30, 40, 40, 50mg
TRN- 4, 6, 6, 8mg

This will prob be my last cycle. Reason being I feel so much better when I don't take PH's. Prob all in my head. But its time to go balls to the wall. I think this will be a killer strength/recomp/lean bulk stack.
 
i gained about 15 pounds stack with furzadrol during 6 weeks cycle and loss same fat(not much)

pct will start tomorrow(hope can keep my gain)
next time might be stack epi with pp....

from my experience, i think a joint support is a really good addition, and maybe sleep support as well... i had a harsh time to sleep..
just my .02
 
davidcyt said:
i gained about 15 pounds stack with furzadrol during 6 weeks cycle and loss same fat(not much)

post cycle therapy will start tomorrow(hope can keep my gain)
next time might be stack epi with pp....

from my experience, i think a joint support is a really good addition, and maybe sleep support as well... i had a harsh time to sleep..
just my .02
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Got those covered too:thumbsup: I will be taking PAL's Incarnate and SNS's P-XT. Good stuff.

U gained 15lbs with Epi/Fuz? WOW!
 
Ok fellas I figured out what I am going to do here.

4-5 weeks

Epi- 30, 40, 40, 50mg
Propadrol- 60, 60, 90, 120mg

Why u may ask? I loved propadrol. Great strength and good mass. Not wet but not dry u know what I am saying lol. I figured it would be a great ride with very min sides.

It will be logged in this section and some where else on ths board. I am looking at it prob in 2 months.:woohoo:
 
Any blood work yet on this badboy? I'm on day three and already have two (yes 2) new personal bests, so the stuff definitely works. Just wondering if I should ramp up my support since I'm only doing cycle support as recomended and cardio a couple times a week.
 
LakeMountD said:
I can't wait to see these results, should be interesting!
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I am def looking forward to it too. I am hopefully going to get some diet help and refine it better from a guy named Dr. Dana Houser. Everyone knows him as Dinoiii on the boards. Normally I want to blow up but I am more looking forward to the strength gains that I can get. Anyway I had to put the Epi away it was drawing me in to it lol.
 
oh shii dinoii is helpin you out and your taking WHAT! your gonna def make some awesome gains this cycle brotha log it for sure and shoot us a lin kin this thread, yea? GL man look slike a great cycle.... im gonna be hittin an Epi straight TRN pulse myself next round me thinks.
 
poopypants said:
oh shii dinoii is helpin you out and your taking WHAT! your gonna def make some awesome gains this cycle brotha log it for sure and shoot us a lin kin this thread, yea? GL man look slike a great cycle.... im gonna be hittin an Epi straight TRN pulse myself next round me thinks.
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I might run the Epi a little higher after the feedback I got from him on some bloodwork of users that were using 60, 70 and even 90mg. For the lifters using 60 and 70mg liver values were slightly raised and supression was very low.

I haven't ran the Prop higher than 60mg but he and others that he knows were hitting it higher than 120mg and getting great results and still little to no sides.
 
UNCfan1 said:
I might run the Epi a little higher after the feedback I got from him on some bloodwork of users that were using 60, 70 and even 90mg. For the lifters using 60 and 70mg liver values were slightly raised and supression was very low.

I haven't ran the Prop higher than 60mg but he and others that he knows were hitting it higher than 120mg and getting great results and still little to no sides.
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i ran mine 3 weeks this last cycle @ 60mg straight and exp NO sides, so that doesnt suprise me a bit... epi is some AWESOME stuff, specially if your pulsing man i would think 60-90mg at a time would be a great run and still not shut ya down too hard.
 
poopypants said:
i ran mine 3 weeks this last cycle @ 60mg straight and exp NO sides, so that doesnt suprise me a bit... epi is some AWESOME stuff, specially if your pulsing man i would think 60-90mg at a time would be a great run and still not shut ya down too hard.
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Well if u ran it at 60mg I might have to too. Oh **** I can't wait to use this stuff. :woohoo:
 
so with prop you gots to pin ED right? now if you pin 60mg ed is that like 30mg in the AM and 30mg prework out or somethin? i work out in the evenings so i dunno if id want to be taking a huge dose like that right before bed...
 
poopypants said:
so with prop you gots to pin ED right? now if you pin 60mg ed is that like 30mg in the AM and 30mg prework out or somethin? i work out in the evenings so i dunno if id want to be taking a huge dose like that right before bed...
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I will be taking around 120mg of Propadrol. Working my way up of course. I ran it once before at 60mg. I workout at night or when I am off of work during the mid day. I don't care to take PH's before bed. They will be spaced out nicely.

Now I am thinking thinking of starting off the Epi at 40mg since u ran 3 weeks at 60mg.

I am going to run a straight cycle not pulsed this time around unless I change my mind. As of now its going to be a 5 week cycle:woohoo: I am looking forward to working with Dinoiii as well.

BTW, I didn;t know Dr.D was one of the guys behind Epi.
 
lol im retarted and said pin caseu i thought when you said prop tha you meant test prop, forgetting a couple osts befoer that you said propadrol, lol its late.

any how ya looks good man! i loved prop while i ran it and would again but thats one progestin that just effected my poor condition too badly... weird tht TRN dont though and neither does fini
 
oh man your gonna love this cycle! i just reread and saw you said straight! not pulsed! ya man 5 weeks all above 40mg will do you purdy.... only suggestion is get some taurine and down water like mad... only had back pumps once with it but that wasnt even this last run but it was a day i worked hard and didnt get enough water... man i regretted that.
 
poopypants said:
lol im retarted and said pin caseu i thought when you said prop tha you meant test prop, forgetting a couple osts befoer that you said propadrol, lol its late.

any how ya looks good man! i loved prop while i ran it and would again but thats one progestin that just effected my poor condition too badly... weird tht TRN dont though and neither does fini
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No biggie its late and I can't sleep either. My new work schedule has me all jacked up.

That is odd that it effected ur conditioning and the others didn't. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks.
 
UNCfan1 said:
Ok fellas I figured out what I am going to do here.

4-5 weeks

Epi- 30, 40, 40, 50mg
Propadrol- 60, 60, 90, 120mg

Why u may ask? I loved propadrol. Great strength and good mass. Not wet but not dry u know what I am saying lol. I figured it would be a great ride with very min sides.

It will be logged in this section and some where else on ths board. I am looking at it prob in 2 months.:woohoo:
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saaaaweeeet...i couldn't have been blessed with a better thread!

alright- i was looking at this cycle also because a buddy of mine works at a shop and can get me prop for cost and i've read WAY too many good things about EPI to pass it up...BUT- my buddy was telling me these might be too dry together...so UNC- are you saying they will be ok to take together?
 
liftitbig85 said:
saaaaweeeet...i couldn't have been blessed with a better thread!

alright- i was looking at this cycle also because a buddy of mine works at a shop and can get me prop for cost and i've read WAY too many good things about EPI to pass it up...BUT- my buddy was telling me these might be too dry together...so UNC- are you saying they will be ok to take together?
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Hell yeah its ok. Its going to be dry but that doesn't bother me to bad. I have ran Halodrol-50/Orastan-E and my joints were hurting but nothing to bad.

I don't think its going to be as dry as that cycle but u never know. Anyway I have some Incarante to run with it. Its got some Cissus in it.:thumbsup:

What are u planning on doses both at? Something like mind?
 
UNCfan1 said:
Hell yeah its ok. Its going to be dry but that doesn't bother me to bad. I have ran Halodrol-50/Orastan-E and my joints were hurting but nothing to bad.

I don't think its going to be as dry as that cycle but u never know. Anyway I have some Incarante to run with it. Its got some Cissus in it.:thumbsup:

What are u planning on doses both at? Something like mind?
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well this will be my first PH...i just did a 5 week stint with hx2/r2/mfx and i had some damn good progress. i got hurt a few weeks ago and havent been to the gym since (going back tonight for the first time) so i've lost alot of what i worked so hard for! being that i'm still green here- i'm still piecing everything together. i want to run high dosages of the EPI, hopefully get to atleast 50mg ED for week 4 and 5 and maybe even ramp up real fast, pretty much the way you have it plus an extra week at 50mg. with the prop i was thinking of getting up to 90mg for this first cycle, i don't think i want to hit 120mg yet hah.
i'm still working on my PCT...i'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before i start asking questions about that because i dont want to get flamed.

Incarante is a nice touch to this, not only for the cissus, but help with more gains....sounds good.

do you have everything all dialed in already?
 
liftitbig85 said:
well this will be my first PH...i just did a 5 week stint with hx2/r2/mfx and i had some damn good progress. i got hurt a few weeks ago and havent been to the gym since (going back tonight for the first time) so i've lost alot of what i worked so hard for! being that i'm still green here- i'm still piecing everything together. i want to run high dosages of the EPI, hopefully get to atleast 50mg ED for week 4 and 5 and maybe even ramp up real fast, pretty much the way you have it plus an extra week at 50mg. with the prop i was thinking of getting up to 90mg for this first cycle, i don't think i want to hit 120mg yet hah.
i'm still working on my post cycle therapy...i'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before i start asking questions about that because i dont want to get flamed.

Incarante is a nice touch to this, not only for the cissus, but help with more gains....sounds good.

do you have everything all dialed in already?
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wk1: Toremifene citrate 90mg/n, HD 2caps/d, Retain 3caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
wk2: Toremifene citrate 60mg/n, HD 2caps/d, Retain 2caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk3: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, Retain 1cap/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk4: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk5: Toremifene citrate 15mg/n, HD 4caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk6: HD 4caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
 
macedaddy said:
wk1: Toremifene citrate 90mg/n, HD 2caps/d, Retain 3caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
wk2: Toremifene citrate 60mg/n, HD 2caps/d, Retain 2caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk3: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, Retain 1cap/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk4: Toremifene citrate 30mg/n, HD 3caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk5: Toremifene citrate 15mg/n, HD 4caps/d, MFX 4caps/d
wk6: HD 4caps/d, MFX 2caps/d
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to macedaddy again.
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i don't know what that means haha but
you're the man mace..i appreciate you're help man- you helped me out with my AX stack too...awesome awesome

i still have some left overs of my AX stack so that will be nice to have. should i take cycle support while "on"?
 
liftitbig85 said:
well this will be my first PH...i just did a 5 week stint with hx2/r2/mfx and i had some damn good progress. i got hurt a few weeks ago and havent been to the gym since (going back tonight for the first time) so i've lost alot of what i worked so hard for! being that i'm still green here- i'm still piecing everything together. i want to run high dosages of the EPI, hopefully get to atleast 50mg ED for week 4 and 5 and maybe even ramp up real fast, pretty much the way you have it plus an extra week at 50mg. with the prop i was thinking of getting up to 90mg for this first cycle, i don't think i want to hit 120mg yet hah.
i'm still working on my post cycle therapy...i'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before i start asking questions about that because i dont want to get flamed.

Incarante is a nice touch to this, not only for the cissus, but help with more gains....sounds good.

do you have everything all dialed in already?
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All I need to get is my Propadrol. It might be a little longer since my damn power bill $315 and will prob be about that all summer. That with a house payment, car payment. But I will gather some funds somehow for the prop:head:

This is ur first cycle? Epi alone would be great but prop added to it won't hurt u. Its very low on sides plus that and Epi both have anti-e properties. Maybe keep the prop at 60mg this time around. Epi prob 30-40mg.
 
If u take liver support during try and space it 4hrs apart from ur PH. Some say it interfers with the methylation. I usually take it just during PCT and a little while after.
 
UNCfan1 said:
All I need to get is my Propadrol. It might be a little longer since my damn power bill $315 and will prob be about that all summer. That with a house payment, car payment. But I will gather some funds somehow for the prop:head:

This is ur first cycle? Epi alone would be great but prop added to it won't hurt u. Its very low on sides plus that and Epi both have anti-e properties. Maybe keep the prop at 60mg this time around. Epi prob 30-40mg.
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so i probably shouldn't run so high? the reason i was wanting to run so high is for mass...i put strength on like its no bodies business but the mass side comes a little slow- well kind of like molasis in the winter! i eat like 3-400g protein a day and right around 4200 calories..so i really dont know what the deal is. and i take carb shakes.
 
i think Prop is significantly dosed at its recommended there LB, i wouldnt exceed it in your very first cycle and honestly i would only run one or the either for your first cycle, you should respond VERY well to either as your receptors are virgins and with these kind of supps bro the lowest effective dose is always the best one to use.... make sure to up your cals and up the intensity of your workouts as well and your cycle will be nothing but a success.... if you want any help setting one up LMK and id be happy to help :thumbsup:
 
If you dont mind me asking, what were the weight of the people that ran epi at those doses?

200+????
 
i weigh 190 when i was runnin my 60mg dose..... prob could have done with less but i was running it strictly so i could stay on and try to reduce a gyno flare up at the same time, its been documented you get the best anti-e effects if taken every 6-8 hours... .equals 60mg err day.... only ran it 3 weeks though.
 
Im on wk 3 of 8.Up over 10lbs strength is very good.Im very pleased so far.
 
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