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Interested in Epistane. Need a good plan for it!

ceomuscle58

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What's up board this is my first time posting on this specific forum. I was reading about the great reviews on Epistane from a different forum and a member told me that this forum had the best information on it. Also said Dr. D was a good source for PC questions. I am 6' 235 pounds at 17% BF right now. In my 4th week of training after coming back from a injury. I started at 22 % BF.

I eat 1.5 grams of Protein and 1.5 grams of carbs time my BW. I cut my carbs as my day goes along eating most of them in the first 3 meals of the day. I take CEE, Protein, ZMA, Trib, and Multi-Vitamins, Omega 3 gel caps. I want to gain alot of lean muscle mass right now without gaining much fat then cut for a contest that is at the beggining of next year.

What is a good dosage plan for the epistane for my type of training and plan? Also should I stack anything else with it? Any help or insight with helping me set up a plan would be awesome. Full details on what works well with this product would be appreciated thanks!

Thanks All,

-CEO
 
Well there is no one plan that is best for everyone but a good way to start is something like this:

30/30/40/40

See how you like that. It usually takes a week or so to see really good results but trust me they will come. If you cut calories just a little on Epistane you will not put any fat on, it is good about that. If you feel you want to put on more mass just increase the cals a little bit, preferably in the protein area, as this compound LOVES excess protein.
 
LakeMountD said:
Well there is no one plan that is best for everyone but a good way to start is something like this:

30/30/40/40

See how you like that. It usually takes a week or so to see really good results but trust me they will come. If you cut calories just a little on Epistane you will not put any fat on, it is good about that. If you feel you want to put on more mass just increase the cals a little bit, preferably in the protein area, as this compound LOVES excess protein.
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What should I stack with it? I am interested in testing your anti-cortisol product if possible for my PCT. It looks like a sweet product with low sides. What other things should I stack with it "Lakemount"?

Thanks,

-CEO
 
Well, personally I like taking things like this alone for a lot of reasons.

The main reason I prefer to take this alone is the fact that the recovery is very very good. I hate taking anything anabolic where I am struggling to recover in PCT. I am a strong ecto body type and PCT really kills me no matter how well I do it. Epistane is just absolutely a dream in PCT and it usually only takes me a week and a half to "feel" recovered and I usually only run a 2 week PCT of toremifene, x-lean, and sometimes an AI and sometimes I even gain weight in PCT.

The gains that I got on Epi by itself were plenty for me and it wasn't worht it to me to gain an extra lb. per week but increasing the sides and shutdown considerably. If you are absolutely dead set on stacking it with something, I would probably use something that aromatizes so that you can take advantage of the anti-gyno properties of epi.

Epi is pretty side effect free as well so that is another plus of taking it by itself. If you are really concerned about being shutdown then you can also pulse it. Everyone has had a lot of success with pulsing. You can do a search and find the pulsing protocols brought on by Dr.D. I ran a 30/40/40/40 cycle the first time I tested it and I still recovered fine though.
 
Lakemount,

Sounds great looks like I will run it alone. What's an AI? I have a bottle of Nolvadex XT laying around can I use that for a PCT? Don't know what pulsing is? I would love to use lean extreme for anitcortisol pct!

Thanks,

-CEO
 
ceomuscle58 said:
Lakemount,

Sounds great looks like I will run it alone. What's an AI? I have a bottle of Nolvadex XT laying around can I use that for a post cycle therapy? Don't know what pulsing is? I would love to use lean extreme for anitcortisol post cycle therapy!

Thanks,

-CEO
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Yeah Lean Xtreme will be out next week sometime at Nutraplanet so check there towards the end of the week! Novedex XT is an AI (aromatase inhibitor) but I only recommend you supplementing that with a SERM such as toremifene. Novedex isn't sufficient for PCT by itself in my opinion. Don't use high dosages of Novedex XT either. You want to run it inverse to the SERM, so as you decrease your SERM dosage you mildly increase your Novedex dosage, not to exceed the recommended dosage of course. Do a search on pulsing, you'll find the thread ;).
 
LakeMountD said:
Yeah Lean Xtreme will be out next week sometime at Nutraplanet so check there towards the end of the week! Novedex XT is an AI (aromatase inhibitor) but I only recommend you supplementing that with a SERM such as toremifene. Novedex isn't sufficient for post cycle therapy by itself in my opinion. Don't use high dosages of Novedex XT either. You want to run it inverse to the SERM, so as you decrease your SERM dosage you mildly increase your Novedex dosage, not to exceed the recommended dosage of course. Do a search on pulsing, you'll find the thread ;).
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Thanks!!!
 
I'd also add in some Super Cissus to further aid recovery from your injury and to keep your joints recovering faster, something that alot of ppl don't take into account when using anabolics like Epistane.
 
LakeMountD said:
Well, personally I like taking things like this alone for a lot of reasons.

The main reason I prefer to take this alone is the fact that the recovery is very very good. I hate taking anything anabolic where I am struggling to recover in post cycle therapy. I am a strong ecto body type and post cycle therapy really kills me no matter how well I do it. Epistane is just absolutely a dream in PCT and it usually only takes me a week and a half to "feel" recovered and I usually only run a 2 week PCT of toremifene, x-lean, and sometimes an AI and sometimes I even gain weight in PCT.

The gains that I got on Epi by itself were plenty for me and it wasn't worht it to me to gain an extra lb. per week but increasing the sides and shutdown considerably. If you are absolutely dead set on stacking it with something, I would probably use something that aromatizes so that you can take advantage of the anti-gyno properties of epi.

Epi is pretty side effect free as well so that is another plus of taking it by itself. If you are really concerned about being shutdown then you can also pulse it. Everyone has had a lot of success with pulsing. You can do a search and find the pulsing protocols brought on by Dr.D. I ran a 30/40/40/40 cycle the first time I tested it and I still recovered fine though.
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I LOVE this guy (Yes Homo) :bruce1:

He is asked what to stack with one of the IBE products, instead of suggesting 2 or 3 MORE IBE products he says he likes to first try something by themselves.

WOW what a GREAT and refreshingly UNIQUE reply. MAJOR props to you LakeMountD!


CROWLER
 
if you just wanna get an idea as to what a succesful cycle of epi can look like check my sig line below for a link to my log, LMD pretty much squared everything away for you that youll need to know but i have some pretty detailed dosing charts in there too if youd like to follow them. id have to say toremifene is a must for pct, nothing else has ever brought me back faster and given me a chance to not only maintain all my gains but improve upon them in PCT. good luck.
 
CROWLER said:
I LOVE this guy (Yes Homo) :bruce1:

He is asked what to stack with one of the IBE products, instead of suggesting 2 or 3 MORE IBE products he says he likes to first try something by themselves.

WOW what a GREAT and refreshingly UNIQUE reply. MAJOR props to you LakeMountD!


CROWLER
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Now my turn, you won't go anywhere unless you stack x-lean/x-dream/epistane/neurobalance and x-force, i couldn't resist :stick:
 
CHAPS said:
Now my turn, you won't go anywhere unless you stack x-lean/x-dream/epistane/neurobalance and x-force, i couldn't resist :stick:
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:clap2: Plus four scoops of cycle support for the rest of your days, also include some Gut Health and about 5 TBsp's of omega's / fish oil a day.......you'll be great :clap2:

/sarcasm
 
LakeMountD said:
Epistane is just absolutely a dream in PCT and it usually only takes me a week and a half to "feel" recovered and I usually only run a 2 week PCT of toremifene, x-lean, and sometimes an AI and sometimes I even gain weight in PCT.
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Not to hi-jack the thread, but I guess that's exactly what I'm doing :lol: ...how do you decide if you are going to shorten a pct after a light cycle? What would your torem or nolva dosages look like? Do you continue with your 4 week AI, tet booster, and cort control plan or do you adjust those for 2 weeks as well?

I fully understand that I should have a full 4 week pct planned ahead of time. At the same time, I'm interested in learning as much as I can as there COULD be such thing as pct overkill.
 
CROWLER said:
I LOVE this guy (Yes Homo) :bruce1:

He is asked what to stack with one of the IBE products, instead of suggesting 2 or 3 MORE IBE products he says he likes to first try something by themselves.

WOW what a GREAT and refreshingly UNIQUE reply. MAJOR props to you LakeMountD!


CROWLER
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Very valid props!

......oh,..................hi there!!! :yawn: :lol:
 
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