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4oz Matrix + 1 Stizm = Holy WOW!!

poison

poison

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So I took a half serving of Matrix with 1 Stizm 2 days ago in the morning. Headed to the gym. WOW!!!

I started with deadlift, hit a PR of 305 with 35lb plates, then did good mornings (why? no idea), decline, chest supported rows, calves, and some skull crushers.

The day before I had eaten less than usual, and I hate morning workouts, so to set a PR and tear it up was great. I then hit a 2 miles run.

I took the MassPump stack before, and pumps were unreal.

I got home starving, slammed two burritos, roasted coffee, changed oil in our two cars, ran errands, played with my kids, ate dinner, hung out with the wife, washed dishes....

And it all ended at 9:00PM. :lol::lol::lol:

But man, that was the best! I have one more Stizm cap, and more matrix, so I'll be doing it again. :D

Now it makes sense too: Stizm has tyramine. ;) anyway, it was the best, longest lasting, cleanest energy ever. But i just took the stronger Matrix sample, so we'll see...
 
Yeah haha I told you guys that things containing large amounts of tyramine would do that. Cheese, soy sauce, etc. will have that effect. The methylhexamine will last all day but to increase those norepinephrine levels, small amounts of caffeine or these foods will give an added boost!
 
How was the crash?? The crash being the burn out point after all the stims are done. IS it like ECY or anything else you can compare it too?
 
No, not at all. I've experienced no crash. After my Stizm/Matrix experience, I was just tired: I had started my day tired, and busted my ass doing crap all day, buzzing all over the place, so the sensation was one of 'wow, I'm physically beat'. I mean I started out my day by setting a PR in deadlift, doing a full body workout and 2 mile run after that, then went jamming from there to the evening.

I've used a bottle of AMP, and THAT made me crash. Ephdra does too. Nothing like it here.

Excercise definately changes the effects of Matrix. W/o excercise, it's not of a euphoric stim feel; with excercise it's almost no overt stim feel, with a bit of euphoria, but just clean motivation and energy. I love that. I feel 100% turned ON, razor sharp, the way I should and would feel if I got 9 hours of sleep a night and led a more relaxing life instead of being run ragged.
 
poison said:
No, not at all. I've experienced no crash. After my Stizm/Matrix experience, I was just tired: I had started my day tired, and busted my ass doing crap all day, buzzing all over the place, so the sensation was one of 'wow, I'm physically beat'. I mean I started out my day by setting a PR in deadlift, doing a full body workout and 2 mile run after that, then went jamming from there to the evening.

I've used a bottle of AMP, and THAT made me crash. Ephdra does too. Nothing like it here.

Excercise definately changes the effects of Matrix. W/o excercise, it's not of a euphoric stim feel; with excercise it's almost no overt stim feel, with a bit of euphoria, but just clean motivation and energy. I love that. I feel 100% turned ON, razor sharp, the way I should and would feel if I got 9 hours of sleep a night and led a more relaxing life instead of being run ragged.
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how do you think stizm compares to AMP?? Stronger without a crash??
 
Oh, no. AMP is similar to XForce/Matrix, but it's dirty energy, not clean and 'feel good'. It's pissy.

Stizm is not like those two, which contain geranium. It's more like a traditional stim, but stronger than most.
 
poison said:
Oh, no. AMP is similar to XForce/Matrix, but it's dirty energy, not clean and 'feel good'. It's pissy.

Stizm is not like those two, which contain geranium. It's more like a traditional stim, but stronger than most.
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so pretty much.....i would want to find my sweet spot with X-force and run that with HEAT instead of AMP? sounds like it....im also looking into this Leviathan that is out now...seems interesting.
 
poison said:
No, not at all. I've experienced no crash. After my Stizm/Matrix experience, I was just tired: I had started my day tired, and busted my ass doing crap all day, buzzing all over the place, so the sensation was one of 'wow, I'm physically beat'. I mean I started out my day by setting a PR in deadlift, doing a full body workout and 2 mile run after that, then went jamming from there to the evening.

I've used a bottle of AMP, and THAT made me crash. Ephdra does too. Nothing like it here.

Excercise definately changes the effects of Matrix. W/o excercise, it's not of a euphoric stim feel; with excercise it's almost no overt stim feel, with a bit of euphoria, but just clean motivation and energy. I love that. I feel 100% turned ON, razor sharp, the way I should and would feel if I got 9 hours of sleep a night and led a more relaxing life instead of being run ragged.
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Yeah that is a pretty good comparison. The reason the others feel dirtier is because they have caffeine levels that are very high. Really caffeine in high dosages isn't a good thing. Although it may make you bounce off the walls and give you that jittery feeling, it restricts bronchioles and makes it harder to breathe during workouts, opposite of the effects of methylhexamine.

Don't get me wrong I am not bashing AMP or StimX, some people actually like that jittery feeling and there is nothing wrong with that. I tried the StimX that people said was very jittery, I believe their new formula might have changed although I am not positive.

It all depends on what you are looking for really. I think X-Force is a little more for mood stimulation and focus and AMP/StimX is a little more of the caffeine type of feel. We are possibly going to reformulate X-Force but we aren't sure yet, just keep checking back at IBE Forums or IBE's AM section.

poison: I also agree with what you say about working out. Some of the people who say they experienced a crash usually weren't continually working out or doing something. If you are just sitting there it is very easily to get overstimulated and crash. Again I have been testing this stuff for the better part of 8-9 months now so I have felt it every which way lol.
 
Oh, you don't want to use XForce AND AMP. For the record, I've only used Matrix, but from all reports it's effects are very similar to XForce. Given that, I'd use XForce over AMP/StimX any day. matrix is FAR better than those two.

As far as Stizm or HEAT? I bet they're similar.
 
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