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Old 03-28-2006, 06:47 PM   #31
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ok whats up with this guy? i have a serious concern here for yanke's problem and we got a guy with one post and his first post is an IBE bash? is that fishy?
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Old 03-28-2006, 06:58 PM   #32
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thanks for the concern. iv been off it for 24 hours and im feelin a little better. im a going to stop taking everything for a couple days until i feel better and then take the stuff one more time to see if the effects are related to it. maybe then well figure out wat it is.

im not bashin IBE, theyve been good to me in the past, i just never experiecend these side effects with nolva
 
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:02 PM   #33
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oh you're not bashing. this is a legitimate concern. no telling who out of a 1000 will have bad sides and I definitely want to catch that. keep in touch with me yanke and let me know. dont want anything happening to you. i dont come here often and i'd hate to member steal. although my board isn't a bodybuilding board exactly but if you can. register at www.ibeforums.com and pm me daily so i can keep track of you.
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thanks for the concern. iv been off it for 24 hours and im feelin a little better. im a going to stop taking everything for a couple days until i feel better and then take the stuff one more time to see if the effects are related to it. maybe then well figure out wat it is.

im not bashin IBE, theyve been good to me in the past, i just never experiecend these side effects with nolva
 



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I am scared to buy more nolva from IBE now
They are top notch. I'm sure they will get to the bottom of this.
 
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They are top notch. I'm sure they will get to the bottom of this.
I will second that for sure. They are a great company. A couple of things could have happened to explain this for one as I said before retain has been known to cause heart palpitations and restlessness (is that even a word ? lol)
 
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Old 03-29-2006, 04:48 PM   #36
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ok whats up with this guy? i have a serious concern here for yanke's problem and we got a guy with one post and his first post is an IBE bash? is that fishy?
I am not bashing, I don't like to bash...It's just now I am concerned. I've used IBE Tamoxifen Citrate in the past, and everything was just fine...I like the prices and the delivery time...but let's be realistic, this is scary, I wouldn't want it to happen to me.
 
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First, we need to try to determine more clearly if at all possible that the product was mislabeled. Is the liquid thin and taste like light everclear? Or does it have a thick consistency and sweet/alcohol taste? There are many quality control measures taken, but this is is the first we are hearing of your situation. Please give us more details on your concerns so that we can help get to the bottom of what is going on.
I love when companies give responses like this one...it shows that they care.
 
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Tyramine could definitely be the culprit, but we need a description of his Nolva just to be sure.

Nolva= chalky, citrus/nasty chemical taste.

Clen= clear, strong alcohol taste with a bite.
WTF? My Nolva, which I have not used yet, has a clear look, and a strong alcohol taste! It is definitely not chalky nor has a nasty taste.

IT is clear as water and smell alcohol.

What the hell is it? Clen?

I ordered in Feb.
 
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IT is clear as water and smell alcohol.
Sounds good.


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Is the liquid thin and taste like light everclear? Or does it have a thick consistency and sweet/alcohol taste?
I think the sweeter stuff is the clen.

I just had my research monkey taste all of my IBE research chemicals. Using sign language he told me:
a'dez, letro, T3 are thicker & sweeter
clomid, nolva are thinner and kind of harsh
 



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yanke,

i need to know how you're doing today bro. i cant pm you so if you can come to the forum pm me over there.
 



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Old 03-30-2006, 12:57 PM   #41
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sorry i took long to get back. iv been busy. i feel better now that i am off everything. when i get home later ill taste, cause before i was capping it.
 
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our nolva is thicker then the clen and does not contain any water. clen is water based you can easly tell the differents. the nolva will burn your mouth and the clen will not.
now that i think about it, the stuff is very clear, is it supposed to be? ill find out tonite what it tastes like and get back to you
 
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We have now decided to start dying our chems different colors to make sure there is no possible mistake between batches and we also put clenbuterol in amber bottles to make sure that this chem would never be mistaken. Many will notice we go further by giving each chem a uniquely colored labeled to avoid shipping errors when packaging products. We assure you, no one gets a different product than what is labeled.
Very nice. Great ideas!

 
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To be clear on the difference in the products......I will lay it out
Clenbuterol will have absolutely no sweet taste and will be mostly water. An entire batch contains 10% alcohol and 90% water (a thickener we use is what gives a sweet taste and there is none in the clenbuterol batches. Also, batches that are strong alcohol tasting and thin will have 40% alcohol or higher, such as tamoxifen. There is also 50% thickener leaving a slight sweet taste but not as dominent as lythoronine sodium, anastrozole and letrozole which contain 75% thickener and only 25% alcohol.
We go through many different quality control measures to assure that products are properly labeled and kept separated. It is very important to eliminate any other possible causes and if you would like for us to test and/or send replacements please call customer service immediately before continuing any research with a questionable item.
We have now decided to start dying our chems different colors to make sure there is no possible mistake between batches and we also put clenbuterol in amber bottles to make sure that this chem would never be mistaken. Many will notice we go further by giving each chem a uniquely colored labeled to avoid shipping errors when packaging products. We assure you, no one gets a different product than what is labeled.
Very nice. Like the idea.
 
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ok i just finished tasting it. last year when i took your nolva i almost died from the taste, which is why i started capping it. the stuff i have now is bearable. almost like an extremley weak vodka. and its thickness is the same as water. so what is it
 
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ok i just finished tasting it. last year when i took your nolva i almost died from the taste, which is why i started capping it. the stuff i have now is bearable. almost like an extremley weak vodka. and its thickness is the same as water. so what is it
From what IBE posted, it sounds like Clen. Send it back to them. Yea if it feels like lotion it's Tamox right?
 



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the stuff also numbed my tongue like when u drink hot coffee. does that happen to anyone
 
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I can still taste it from a year ago. It's a heavy alcohol, tangy, burning taste. Edit: I can't really taste it from a year ago. It's just so memorable.
 



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Oops, I'll delete my other posts on descriptions as they were based on someone else's nolva and clen.

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