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    THIS!

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    any updates on this vaughn? when will it be at nutraplanet?
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    trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
    off topic, but you gonna have aim while you're out in cali?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
    thanks for the update vaughn.

    i'm very interested in this - i'll pick up some when it goes to nutraplanet
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    VaughnTrue's info in one more day?
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    Ecdymoprh!!!!!

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    THIS!!!!!!!!!!

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    Ecdymoprh!!!!!
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    I know this is my first post but please hang in there with me. Im just getting back into the game after a year and half after tearing my shoulder all apart from lifting. My size and most of my strength is gone so im slowly working my way back up there. By know means was as bad azz as you all here and my supplement knowledge is sub par after digging through this sweet forum. So I guess I have to start somewhere as all of you did on this matter of supplements. what would be the perfect stack for me to take getting back into the swing of things. The reason I posted here is because it seems like I would want to include the long waited for Ecdy into my life. Or to soon? Thanks for the help all and patience.
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    Ecdy is one of those products that looks great on paper and in animals but doesn't translate to significant results in humans. I heard that the Russians injected it and in animals studies it is often injected. I assume most gets destroying in the digestive process. I have been interested in this product for years because of it's potential health benefits. I have even megadosed without success.
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    Hey has anyone mentioned EcdyMorph in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Hey has anyone mentioned EcdyMorph in this thread?
    only a few times :P

    wonder when this will be out though...
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    I brought the idea of poor oral availability up a few posts back. The only evidence I have found regarding success with oral ingestion was from a anecdotal report I read a while back of a people who drink a blended juice/tea type drink of Rhaponticum Carthamoides. This plant provides a wide spectrum of ecdysteroids, not just 20E, or turk or any isolated ecdy. This idea was taken from animals, a technique used by humans since the beginning of time. We observe other animals eating something and then try it out. Anyway its said that the caribous in Siberia graze on the Rhaponticum Carthamoides. Observing this, humans tried it and observed an adaptogenic effect with increases in "vitality" and "well being" much like those documented with rhodiola rosea. It makes sense that putting your body in a state of high stress tolerance would increase your chances of building muscle. So for those of us who have some farm land and can grow this stuff and eat it like salads, this is great news. For the other 99 percent of us, perhaps the isolation of protein synthesis stimulating ecdysteroids and proper delivery of these isolated compounds could be effective in large and frequent doses as the half life of ecdy is short to my knowledge. So in my opinion a highly purified doses in large enough quantities to deliver effective amounts to the blood stream (not sure what that is) taken in frequent doses should, in theory, have the desired effects.

    This is interesting: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518108
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    Good read^ I'll rep u later I'm on my cell


    Edit lol that sounded funny

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    bump for updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by swan1209 View Post
    I brought the idea of poor oral availability up a few posts back.

    ...perhaps the isolation of protein synthesis stimulating ecdysteroids and proper delivery of these isolated compounds could be effective in large and frequent doses as the half life of ecdy is short to my knowledge.
    I dose EcdyMorph throughout the day, even kept a bottle in my desk to ensure I didn't miss a dosage (since the half life is so short ~30min I've heard). Also, I take a whole gaggle of oral absorption enhancers as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I dose EcdyMorph throughout the day, even kept a bottle in my desk to ensure I didn't miss a dosage (since the half life is so short ~30min I've heard). Also, I take a whole gaggle of oral absorption enhancers as well.
    Have you had success with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    trying guys! will update you before the end of this week as to the ETA. I'm in San Diego at iForce HQ for the week, so I should have in depth answers to just about everything by friday.
    Still not at NP
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoooter View Post
    Still not at NP
    I'm sure Vaughn will have a update next time he's online.


    I hope

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    we've been yelling at our manufacturer to hurry up with Dexaprine(which is taking a bit longer than expected due to some caplet creation issues, however all has been fixed now), so he put the ECDY on a backburner to get the dexaprine finished for us(running about 1000 bottles of ECDY, and 10,000 of Dexaprine, so you can see why).

    I'd expect to see NP run a sale on it within 2 weeks.
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    in for this ecdy. I wanna see what it's about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    we've been yelling at our manufacturer to hurry up with Dexaprine(which is taking a bit longer than expected due to some caplet creation issues, however all has been fixed now), so he put the ECDY on a backburner to get the dexaprine finished for us(running about 1000 bottles of ECDY, and 10,000 of Dexaprine, so you can see why).

    I'd expect to see NP run a sale on it within 2 weeks.
    I understand... Can't wait to try me some Dexaprine with the ecdymorph!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I dose EcdyMorph throughout the day, even kept a bottle in my desk to ensure I didn't miss a dosage (since the half life is so short ~30min I've heard). Also, I take a whole gaggle of oral absorption enhancers as well.
    what do you use specifically for enhancing oral absorption? i've heard of ppl using grapefruit juice, naringin, and/or bioperine but didn't no if i was missing something
    im the sh!t, even your girlfriend can smell it
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    the half life of ecdy is 9 hours...not 30 minutes. i'll look for where i found that info, but it was far longer than I expected when I actually looked it up.


    edit: yea, i'm right. pure 20-hydroxyecdysone's half life is 9 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    the half life of ecdy is 9 hours...not 30 minutes. i'll look for where i found that info, but it was far longer than I expected when I actually looked it up.


    edit: yea, i'm right. pure 20-hydroxyecdysone's half life is 9 hours.
    See that sounds more like it! Adding anything to it to improve bio-availability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    the half life of ecdy is 9 hours...not 30 minutes. i'll look for where i found that info, but it was far longer than I expected when I actually looked it up.


    edit: yea, i'm right. pure 20-hydroxyecdysone's half life is 9 hours.
    This is GREAT news - this holds true for EcdyMorph specifically, or all iterations of Ecdy? I wonder where the popular belief came from that preached it's short half life.

    I am always excited to read anything pertaining to Ecdy, can you post the research that validates the long nine hour half life? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amateurfreak View Post
    what do you use specifically for enhancing oral absorption? i've heard of ppl using grapefruit juice, naringin, and/or bioperine but didn't no if i was missing something
    Bioperine, DHB, Emblica Officinalis, Vitamin C, Lecithin, Fish Oil, Grapefruit Extract - sounds like a lot, but they are all exceedingly inexpensive, and have some interesting science behind them individually. It's not perfect, or a sure-fire way to enhance absorption, but it's a great start and I'm always refining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    we've been yelling at our manufacturer to hurry up with Dexaprine(which is taking a bit longer than expected due to some caplet creation issues, however all has been fixed now), so he put the ECDY on a backburner to get the dexaprine finished for us(running about 1000 bottles of ECDY, and 10,000 of Dexaprine, so you can see why).

    I'd expect to see NP run a sale on it within 2 weeks.
    can't wait to give this a go. will it be stacked with testabolan for a promo, or just on it's own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Bioperine, DHB, Emblica Officinalis, Vitamin C, Lecithin, Fish Oil, Grapefruit Extract - sounds like a lot, but they are all exceedingly inexpensive, and have some interesting science behind them individually. It's not perfect, or a sure-fire way to enhance absorption, but it's a great start and I'm always refining.
    yeah they definitely aren't very expensive but interesting science thanks for giving me some ideas. i use grapefruit juice and fish oil but i'll have to try adding some others in
    im the sh!t, even your girlfriend can smell it
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    Quote Originally Posted by amateurfreak View Post
    yeah they definitely aren't very expensive but interesting science thanks for giving me some ideas. i use grapefruit juice and fish oil but i'll have to try adding some others in
    I actually do eat grapefruits, just the whole fruit. I love the taste with breakfast, kind of a added bonus that it deactivates the CYP 3A4 enzyme.
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    I'll take 998 bottles.

    Gotta leave a bottle each for my boys Staked and Outstanding.



    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    running about 1000 bottles of ECDY

    I'd expect to see NP run a sale on it within 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I'll take 998 bottles.

    Gotta leave a bottle each for my boys Staked and Outstanding.

    Lmao!!!!

    How nice of you

    Don't worry Tnubs I'll split my one bottle with you, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I'll take 998 bottles.

    Gotta leave a bottle each for my boys Staked and Outstanding.

    if thats the case...........






    brb texting faith so she can steal me some bottles from vaughns stash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    if thats the case...........






    brb texting faith so she can steal me some bottles from vaughns stash.
    $500/bottle special for you Josh
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    $500/bottle special for you Josh
    damn, i was expecting at least a g note.............why the special treatment?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    Lmao!!!!

    How nice of you

    Don't worry Tnubs I'll split my one bottle with you, lol
    Quote Originally Posted by baldwanus View Post
    if thats the case...........






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    share the bottles around man. you know the rules

    :P
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    so soon, can't wait for this stuff. Going to use it in my post contest pct.

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