Im mainly looking for intense pumps at the gym....I generally like to workout untill it feels like my muscle will pull away from the bone....
I like stims....but i figured i could always throw two geranium oil caps in if i went hemavol..... tough decision.....
If you've already got some geranium oil you could consider just going with Hemavol and if you needed the stims add the geranium oil and some caffeine tablets.
But, if you aren't using any other creatine right now you might want to consider Maximize V2 instead.
Of course the obvious answer is to buy both and stack them.
(Also, as far as insane pumps go...I had to quit using Hemavol when I first bought it because if I dosed too close to my cardio I would have to quit running because of the pump in my legs)
Another thing to consider would be that Maximize V2 can be found pretty cheap a few different places right now and will be jumping back up to similar preworkout product price range in the near future.